Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

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Re: Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

Post by palerider » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:26 am

ajack wrote:my s9 st, doesn't have a pressure pulse and scores both central and obstructive as an unclassified. Does the st-a have a pressure pulse to distinguish between the two?
are you not paying attention? resmeds don't use pressure pulses.

whether or not your machine uses FOT or not is another question, however, it's unlikely that it does, since it doesn't need to differentiate, since it's not going to do anything about either... since it's not an auto.

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Re: Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

Post by ajack » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:34 am

I wasn't paying attention, I was combining fot and pressure pulse, silly me.. I was more focused on what machines were giving ca and oa data in which modes. I edited as you were writing to say that in cpap mode, the s9 st tells the difference between ca and oa and I used respironics tech name instead of fot again.

do you know if the st-a flags ca and oa? because I don't and I'm now curious.

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Re: Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

Post by palerider » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:20 am

ajack wrote:I wasn't paying attention, I was combining fot and pressure pulse, silly me.. I was more focused on what machines were giving ca and oa data in which modes. I edited as you were writing to say that in cpap mode, the s9 st tells the difference between ca and oa and I used respironics tech name instead of fot again.

do you know if the st-a flags ca and oa? because I don't and I'm now curious.
it's never come up,

why don't you try doing some research, download some manuals, google up some charts from people that have one, see what you can find out... and maybe keep your terms straight, so that you can actually find what you're looking for, it helps.

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Re: Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

Post by palerider » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:50 am

xxyzx wrote:resmed uses a small 4 cycle pulse to check for impedance change
no. not a "small 4 cycle pulse"
xxyzx wrote:there is no pulse with resmed
egad, he's not 100% wrong.
xxyzx wrote:they have other ways to see if you are trying to breathe or not
no
xxyzx wrote:when blocked they increase pressure to clear it
no
xxyzx wrote:when open they give you the target Vt and RR to keep you ventilated
not really
xxyzx wrote:they are not pumping air in to check for compliance of the lung
as stretching would cause CA due to the hering breuer effect
no
xxyzx wrote:i will check the philips manual latertoday that explains there method
unlikely

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Re: Can VPAP ST-A do what ASV does?

Post by palerider » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:29 pm

xxyzx wrote:try learning what hering breuer is before you dismiss it
I did, you're wrong.

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