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Bons
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Emergency help needed

Post by Bons » Fri May 12, 2017 7:20 pm

I am traveling and just discovered my filters popped out at the last
hotel if not the one before that. Which would be worse- using ASV without filters or
going without the AVS?

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by archangle » Fri May 12, 2017 7:52 pm

Use it anyway. The filter is there to protect the machine, not the user. A few days or even a week won't hurt too bad.

Use a little extra caution to keep dust away from the air inlet, such as dusting the table before sitting your machine there.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by palerider » Fri May 12, 2017 9:22 pm

Bons wrote:I am traveling and just discovered my filters popped out at the last
hotel if not the one before that. Which would be worse- using ASV without filters or
going without the AVS?
going without.

not having the filter for a short time won't hurt anything.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat May 13, 2017 11:58 am

I would probably cut a piece of clean coffee filter for using one night.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by palerider » Sat May 13, 2017 2:20 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:I would probably cut a piece of clean coffee filter for using one night.
that's worth a try, but my thought is that it'd be too restrictive of airflow.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by archangle » Sun May 14, 2017 12:24 pm

palerider wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:I would probably cut a piece of clean coffee filter for using one night.
that's worth a try, but my thought is that it'd be too restrictive of airflow.
Agreed. Supposedly, too much air restriction in a filter can cause the machine to overheat, even though it still supplies enough air. Even one night might be enough to ruin the machine.

Coffee filters I've seen seem like they'd be WAY too restrictive.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by tuzacat » Sun May 14, 2017 4:19 pm

After I cleaned my filter and water tank recently I accidentally neglected to put my filter back in. It actually ran for a couple of nights without it. No harm was done to either me or the machine. Mine is an ASV, too.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by Pap-Daddy » Sun May 14, 2017 7:47 pm

archangle wrote:Coffee filters I've seen seem like they'd be WAY too restrictive.
And also flimsy. I'd be afraid it would get sucked in the cpap. Prob better off with a foam or scotch-brite type material...
or just go naked, naked as a jay-bird

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by Omne » Mon May 15, 2017 3:58 pm

xxyzx wrote:
tuzacat wrote:After I cleaned my filter and water tank recently I accidentally neglected to put my filter back in. It actually ran for a couple of nights without it. No harm was done to either me or the machine. Mine is an ASV, too.
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i found one site that said never to run their machine with OUT a filter

didnt say why

there is a reason they designed it with a filter
Yeah because over a long period of time it will damage the machine blowers if dust builds up.

As people have mentioned in the past you're breathing the same air with or without the machine and the volume is the same, your lungs only hold so much. Going without is not going to be any more harmful to your lungs then normal sleep. Eventually you will run into a problem if the dust builds up but that takes time.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by Slartybartfast » Mon May 15, 2017 8:46 pm

Filters are over-rated. I'm on the original filter that came with my S9 Autoset 7 years ago. I just rinse it out in the sink and re-use it. No problem.

However, if you need an emergency filter, consider taking a piece of 2-ply toilet paper, peeling off one ply and tape it, or stick it over the air intake. One night is not going to do any harm. Neither will a week. Just get a filter in the machine as soon as you can.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon May 15, 2017 9:22 pm

I find the hypo-allergenic filters protect ME from various things that make me sneeze.
So I install a fresh one every 3 weeks--more often if it is unusually dusty.
Protecting the cpap is all well and good, but sleeping beats the heck out of sneezing.
Those filters are worth their weight in chocolate.

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Re: Emergency help needed

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue May 16, 2017 9:59 am

xxyzx wrote: . . . you should add a room air filter with ioniser and with smoke rated not mere hepa rated filters
to filter out as much stuff as you can before you sleep
leave it on low all night if you can take that noise level
Or not.
Extra filtering is NOT NEEDED in my case.
The hypo filter ON MY CPAP is all I need.
Also, NO ONE smokes in my house, because I would put out their cancer stick on their FACE.

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