Full Face Mask worst option according to professionals?

Sheffey wrote:

palerider wrote:The leak can be higher, but not necessarily, and modern machines compensate without problem for most leaks.
Also, nor everyone is a mouth breather, many have no problems with their jaw opening during sleep.

You are too easy on that stupid idiot drive-by guest. I hope you did not lose your edge over that imbecilic Rudeness thread.

Lol, well, the haters sent Carolyn so many PMs she thinks I'm the devil incarnate now, so I figured I'd let others point out the obvious

Compliance is dependent on fit and comfort, and those factors depend on one another absolutely.
Until full face mask sizing accommodates the full range of faces, full face masks are at a disadvantage.
It took me seven years to find a (new) full face mask to match my face, [[[F20]]]
too late to make that excellent mask anything but a backup. Too late . . . Not my fault.

Matt Beck wrote:Only problem with Full Face Masks is the leak is high. This means you are not getting the full pressure and therapy due to the leak. Also, they can create sores on the nose/face due to being overtighten. Everyone is a mouth breather. We all mouth breath at night during REM sleep, when our brain shuts some muscles down.

I hope Matt Beck is not in a position to give advice to CPAP patients....His reply to a 7 year old post is stupid

Google references Matt Beck, a musician associate of Dweezil Zappa.
Maybe not the same person, but please pass that doobie; my buzz is fading.

I wouldn't say a FFM is the worst option - it could very well be the only option if you can't breath thru your nose. If you can breath thru your nose I think a nasal mask is a better option and I prefer nasal pillows.

I think it was Dr Park who said when you breath thru your nose the increased pressure will move (or keep) your tongue out of your airway; so if you can breath thru your nose that is the better choice. I suppose you could breath thru your nose with a FFM too but I do like the min. headgear and facial contact of the nasal pillows.

IMO with a FFM you have more surface area to seal and therefore the FFM is harder to seal.

Guest wrote:If you can breath thru your nose I think a nasal mask is a better option and I prefer nasal pillows.

Another Guest who doesn't know what he is talking about. A FFM is for people whose mouth opens at times while asleep. Many of these people breathe very well through their nostrils. But at times, their mouth will open or leak while sleeping. The FFM continues to provide therapy at these times.

Madalot wrote:
From what I've read over there, they say that breathing through the nose is normal and even mouth breathers can be trained to breathe through their nose if they try hard enough.

So, if you fail in their program, you the patient are the failure, not the program. Why does this sound like doctor arrogance? As a pillows user myself, I have had occasions where I absolutely needed a FFM because I could NOT breathe through my nose. Anyway, I could go on, but you all get it already. I don't know how old that post is, but I would hope that the goal is to help the patient succeed in therapy no matter what mask is used.

Opinions are like A..holes, everyone has one and most of them stink.

My Dr. also uses a FFM

Some love full face masks. Some hate them.
We use what we can, and, hopefully, make it work.
There is no one size fits all--although mask makers seem to have that misconception.

SewTired wrote:

Madalot wrote:
From what I've read over there, they say that breathing through the nose is normal and even mouth breathers can be trained to breathe through their nose if they try hard enough.

So, if you fail in their program, you the patient are the failure, not the program. Why does this sound like doctor arrogance? As a pillows user myself, I have had occasions where I absolutely needed a FFM because I could NOT breathe through my nose. Anyway, I could go on, but you all get it already. I don't know how old that post is, but I would hope that the goal is to help the patient succeed in therapy no matter what mask is used.

SewTired - you only quoted part of what I said and when I read it, I was confused because I don't remember the original post. I went and looked and saw there was more to my post. Just in case anyone else is confused - I was saying what I READ (wherever it was) - not saying that I agree with it. The rest of my comments, where I said it was not the case for me (thus saying I don't agree) were not quoted.

I am a huge advocate of FFMs. I have always used one because my mouth always drops open and I cannot train myself not to do it. Ain't gonna happen.

I think people who fool themselves into thinking their mouths don't open when asleep are in denial!

I se a FFM due to sinus problems. I was originally provided a nasal pillow but couldn't use it due to my sinuses. I have had a couple of sinus surgeries which help with the sinus breathing but still use the FFM. While I do experience some leakage around the mask as I am settling in, apparently it's not significant as the machine says I am 99-100% good on my seal.

I have found too many people under the false notion that you can have a "one size fits all" mentality. The problem with that is reality. If you have 100 people you will have 100 different solutions. Even a broad solution will only work with some perhaps maybe most but you will always have a percentage that just don't fit within the proverbial box. Contrary to what so many ignorant professionals would have you believe this is not a bad thing but a good thing.

When you see posts like this check to see how many positive posts were contributed or are they all or mostly just rude comments for no apparent reason.

Sheffey wrote:

Guest wrote:If you can breath thru your nose I think a nasal mask is a better option and I prefer nasal pillows.

Another Guest who doesn't know what he is talking about. A FFM is for people whose mouth opens at times while asleep. Many of these people breathe very well through their nostrils. But at times, their mouth will open or leak while sleeping. The FFM continues to provide therapy at these times.

Why are you so judgemental ?
Can you not accept that others have a different opinion that you do?
Isn't that what makes this world what it is? A wonderful place to live in.
What is that makes your opinion absolute?
Why do you sound like a RudeRider sock puppet?

Sheffey wrote:You are too easy on that stupid idiot drive-by guest. I hope you did not lose your edge over that imbecilic Rudeness thread.

flightco wrote:Opinions are like A..holes, everyone has one and most of them stink.

My Dr. also uses a FFM

Another PR sock puppet. What makes your doctor right for everyone else?

I have seen 1,2, or 3 names listed as "Also Posted As" but this is quite the impressive list here.
How many of these also belong to you?

Guest wrote:An old post I know TY.

What caught my attn is the names listed under posted as are the same names you always see stirring up trouble.

Nothing new here..

autocorrect
Also Posted As:
(Cereal Killer)
(ChicagoGranny)
(Chilibit)
(Christine L)
(CowFish)
(DeadlySleep)
(gama212)
(Hang Fire)
(KTinTexas)
(Midnight Strangler)
(OhHelpMe)
(OkyDoky)
(Sheffey)
(Susie Kay)
(The Choker)
(Therapist)

autocorrect wrote:I take it, I give you 15 dollars for it. actually 5 the other is for shipping. Thanks let me know if you still have it.

Oddly enuff I have also noticed quite a few usernames which were created some time ago and sat idle for many years which it appears are suddenly trying to get enuff posts so they can get a new SPAM Delete button.
Oddly CarpeNoctum is just one of them.

So who will delete this?