rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:52 pm

The vents on Swift LT are quite adequate.
Have you ever seen one, D.H. ?

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by Physician » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:02 am

Czech Daughter wrote:i cannot deal with the re-breathing the breath i just exhaled. my breathing becomes so labored. and, i bet the pulse ox is down.... which was my whole purpose for cpap.
I cannot deal with the rainout to the point that water goes into my nose. it is frightening and wakes me.
i am so disappointed in my supplier. they are discussing the rainout, but, IGNORE the re-breathing problem. i do not want heated air. it is hot enough in this house. bought the climate tubing, but went back to the plain one. got a new humidifier chamber. wrapped the tubing. machine is 6" below the mattress. no kinks nor sharp turns in the tubing.
humidifier is set down to 2. settings are 7 and 20.
My remedy? well, this may not be a good idea, but, i have begun to keep the nasal pillows away from my nostrils so that i can breathe better. there is no more rainout. there is no struggle to breathe. it is close enough that the machine does recognize my breathing. but, i get the red face on my screen every morning, and ignore it.
my biggest concern is that I DOUBT THE MACHINE CAN ALWAYS DETECT MY EVENTS AS I HAVE LOOSENED THE NASAL PILLOWS TO POOR SEAL. i am ready to give up on this thing. i doubt that going back to the doctor would be a remedy: he is not a technician. he likely does not understand much about the machine... i assume.
Using Resmed Airsense 10, auto, 7 and 20, nasal pillows, non-climatized tube, https://myair.resmed.com/Default.aspx , sign in is 1st.sam.3.10@gmail.com , pw is myAir.17
please advise.

Condensation can easily occur if you don't use a ClimateLine® hose.

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by Neutron Star » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:15 pm

I'm really new but I was getting too much condensation in my Mirage FX Nasal Mask so I turned the heat down. Humidity to 4, Hose 24 C. When switched to my AirFit P10 Nasal Pillows three days ago the pillows felt ice cold on the same settings where they the touch my Nostrils. I played with the settings and found turning the Heat up to 26 and dropping the Humidity down to 3 worked. Air warmer, enough moisture picked up by warmer air.

It's still chilly in the evening where I live in Canada so the house heating is still on during the night.

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by palerider » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:24 pm

Neutron Star wrote:Air warmer, enough moisture picked up by warmer air.
it sounds like you're confused about the temp setting.

the temp setting is for the *hose* it's how warm the hose heats up, after moisture is added to the air. all the temp setting does is warm the hose so that moisture doesn't condense on the inside of it, it doesn't affect how much moisture is added, though a warmer setting could lead to less condensation and thus more moisture making it to the mask.

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by Neutron Star » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:37 am

palerider wrote:
Neutron Star wrote:Air warmer, enough moisture picked up by warmer air.
it sounds like you're confused about the temp setting.

the temp setting is for the *hose* it's how warm the hose heats up, after moisture is added to the air. all the temp setting does is warm the hose so that moisture doesn't condense on the inside of it, it doesn't affect how much moisture is added, though a warmer setting could lead to less condensation and thus more moisture making it to the mask.
Good point, I wasn't looking at it that way. Seemed to work, although last night I turned up the hose temp and that also worked. Not sure anymore. Seems I have to adjust at the beginning of every night!

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Re: rainout and suffocating vs poor mask seal

Post by palerider » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:52 pm

Neutron Star wrote:
palerider wrote:
Neutron Star wrote:Air warmer, enough moisture picked up by warmer air.
it sounds like you're confused about the temp setting.

the temp setting is for the *hose* it's how warm the hose heats up, after moisture is added to the air. all the temp setting does is warm the hose so that moisture doesn't condense on the inside of it, it doesn't affect how much moisture is added, though a warmer setting could lead to less condensation and thus more moisture making it to the mask.
Good point, I wasn't looking at it that way. Seemed to work, although last night I turned up the hose temp and that also worked. Not sure anymore. Seems I have to adjust at the beginning of every night!
weather changes, and that's what affects the humidity settings.

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