The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by Okie bipap » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:15 am

I used an oxygen concentrator at night while sleeping for almost a full year. When I had knee surgery two years ago, it was noted that my blood oxygen was dropping drastically at night while sleeping, so I was given a concentrator to use at night until I could be tested and start bipap treatment. The concentrator is cheaper than using an oxygen tank.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:24 am

Since tanks can freeze up, a concentrator is a reliable back-up.
For someone whose oxygen rate is high, this can be essential.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by palerider » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:33 pm

flightco wrote:What is the purpose of an O2 concentrator? What are the indications you would need one? I am just curious, don't think I need one, yet.
it provides a source of supplemental oxygen if you need it.

if your oxygen percentage in your blood is too low, you need extra oxygen.

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Post by palerider » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:36 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Since tanks can freeze up, a concentrator is a reliable back-up.
For someone whose oxygen rate is high, this can be essential.
from what little I know about typical usage, the concentrator is a primary source of supplemental oxygen, and tanks are a backup. the concentrator can provide o2 24x7 if needed, and doesn't come with any of the downsides of oxygen tanks.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:55 pm

Concentrators sometimes cannot deliver oxygen fast enough for my sister in law if she is active.
She has to use a tank if she is up and about.

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Post by palerider » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:04 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Concentrators sometimes cannot deliver oxygen fast enough for my sister in law if she is active.
She has to use a tank if she is up and about.
wow, how much does she need??

I've seen commonly available 10 LPM concentrators, though the one we've got her maxes at 5lpm.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:08 pm

Emphysema. She needed 10 just to shower.
It's been over a year; no idea what she needs now.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by Goofproof » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:10 pm

palerider wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:Since tanks can freeze up, a concentrator is a reliable back-up.
For someone whose oxygen rate is high, this can be essential.
from what little I know about typical usage, the concentrator is a primary source of supplemental oxygen, and tanks are a backup. the concentrator can provide o2 24x7 if needed, and doesn't come with any of the downsides of oxygen tanks.
A Concentrator, has 3 downsides, noise, room heating, added electric usage. Jim
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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by bwexler » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:30 pm

Concentrator, has 3 downsides, noise, room heating, added electric usage. Jim

In the winter the extra heat is a plus. I keep mine in the bathroom with the door closed and my new Q is now quiet enough that I don't hear it. The electric bill is a nuisance, but I am waiting for you to come over and install solar panels so I won't have to pay for electricity any more.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by Goofproof » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:51 pm

bwexler wrote:Concentrator, has 3 downsides, noise, room heating, added electric usage. Jim

In the winter the extra heat is a plus. I keep mine in the bathroom with the door closed and my new Q is now quiet enough that I don't hear it. The electric bill is a nuisance, but I am waiting for you to come over and install solar panels so I won't have to pay for electricity any more.
Better than that just get the XPAP electric discount, and let your neighbors share your electric bill, it's the Socialest way. jim
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Post by bwexler » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:02 pm

than that just get the XPAP electric discount, and let your neighbors share your electric bill, it's the Socialest way. jim


Yeah. I hate being a socialist, but I applied for it anyway.

The fact that San Diego Graft and Extortion has a reputation for being one of the highest priced utilities in the country removes some of the guilt.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:13 pm

I asked; and there is no discount here.
Of course, Lincoln's electric rates are some of the lowest in the country.
Cheaper to heat with electricity than with gas.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by Stormynights » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:08 pm

No help here either. I tried just to get them to take care of outages faster. They just told me to go somewhere else until it comes back on.

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Re: The best way to drive a weed up insurance's ass with CPAP

Post by Thatgirl » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:26 am

My pulmonologist offered me the choice of CPAP or oxygen at night. I thought wearing a nasal cannula when I slept sounded WAY less invasive than a horrible, terrible, CPAP mask!!! I got the oxygen concentrator brought to my house, and I couldn't believe how big it was. It was slightly bigger and much heavier than a roller suitcase. Then the guy setting me up dragged in two back up tanks. Great. Then I turned the concentrator on. I have hardwood floors throughout my house and it shook my whole house. It was so loud I couldn't believe it. I wondered how I would ever sleep with a vacuum running in my room type sound- which is incidentally what I thought CPAP machines sounded like. He recommended I place the concentrator on a foam area rug to muffle the sound. That helped a touch. Then the concentrator got moved out of my bedroom and I would have oxygen tubing running through my house at night. Then I finally could sleep. My copay was $40/month for an infinite rental. My CPAP copay was $17/month for 13 months- plus supplies. I finally got up on O2 when I realized I was waking up with the oxygen on the floor everyday anyway. I went with nothing for awhile, then finally decided to try CPAP. I can't remember what finally convinced me. Finding out depression could be related to sleep apnea. Seeing a close friend of mine wishing for a sleep apnea diagnosis so she could find something to help her energy levels. Seeing more patients at work bringing CPAP machines in. When I got my CPAP I couldn't believe how much smaller, quieter, and cheaper it was than the oxygen concentrator. I replaced something that sounded like a vacuum cleaner with something that sounded like a white noise machine. So in short- I can definitely vouch for those three big downsides to O2 concentrators.

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