Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by Guest » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:26 am

if you'd read more, or perhaps clicked the sleepyhead link in my sig, you'd know ALL about it, and not make statements that get you laughed at, like the one you made above.
"statements that get laughed at" Well, ok, glad to amuse you then. I'll be getting more informed about this, while you'll no doubt continue to be the "what's the opposite of nice guy?" you've been so far.

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by grifho » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:07 am

yeah, that was me. I forgot to login, so I was a "guest". Several of your comments have been rude, so I responded in kind.
ohhh, you're SO right, I did mistype. ""the leaks have no affect on the machines ability to treat your apnea.
ftfy.
So when you say it, you "mistyped", but when I say it it's "muddled thinking"? Anyway, mistyped? It's not plausible that one can try to type "prevent" and have it come out as "treat".
*excessive* mask leaks must be addressed, because when they get to be too large, they affect, as I said, the ability of the machine to accurately determine what kinds of apnea you have, (and thus respond properly to it) and if the leaks are truly massive, they'll get beyond the machine's ability to maintain therapy pressure, and thus will increase the number of apnea events you experience. however, that amount of leakage is truly huge, as you can see from the chart in the back of the clinicians manual. (somewhere between 115lpm@20cm up to 149lpm@4cm). if you don't have a clinicians manual, then get one, instructions on how to are all over this forum, just do a bit of looking. the leaks you've stated you have (seriously, get sleepyhead so you can see what's going on) are NOT *excessive*, unless you're mistaken as to how bad they are... (again, get SleepyHead).
OK, thanks for looking into that. As I said, I've had all sorts of contrasting advice over this, and I'm trying to reconcile it all. Good to know that the leaks are not compromising my treatment. Yeah, I'm going to get sleepyhead, but I'm in the middle of updating the OS on my PC, so I'm going to wait to do that, as I'll have to reload all apps afterwards anyway.
get sleepyhead and get some REAL data. maybe you sleep better with the mask looser, even though it leaks a bit more. this stuff is *complicated* there are a lot of factors involved.
Agreed

I had some other comments to your comments, but I think our ideas were whizzing past each other, so I'll leave it at that
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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by grifho » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:53 am

It is possible that with more leaks ... the leaks are waking you up before you have an event ... therefore less events to record.
Fix the leaks and you sleep better and go into rem sleep and have more events.

now it you get the sortware for your computer .... you will be able to see what is happening
Yeah, that was my original speculation for the first post of this thread--more leaks, less events to record, and thus a lower AHI, as well as fewer prevented events. But the conversation got diverted away from this observation. Yeah, I'm getting the software. Thanks, grayghost.

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by palerider » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:23 pm

Guest wrote: I'll be getting more informed about this, while you'll no doubt continue to be the "what's the opposite of nice guy?" you've been so far.
if it continues to cause you to think and learn, sure.

you've been sarcastic and argumentative from the second message, I just responded in kind since it seemed to be your preferred method of communication.

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by Guest » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:26 pm

if it continues to cause you to think and learn, sure.

you've been sarcastic and argumentative from the second message, I just responded in kind since it seemed to be your preferred method of communication.
In looking back, I don't think I ever got personal, whereas a couple of yours were insulting, you must admit.

Anyway, seriously, thanks for the feedback you've given me, and sorry if I came across that way. Maybe we can put this behind us and forget the acrimony? I think I just have to get used to everyone's style of response here. And others will get used to mine. On other sites I'm on, I'm known as a good guy, and the style of argument I use is not considered antagonistic. But maybe I have to tone it down here, I don't know

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by palerider » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:50 pm

Guest wrote:Anyway, seriously, thanks for the feedback you've given me, and sorry if I came across that way. Maybe we can put this behind us and forget the acrimony?
sure.

the thing you might consider, like I said elsewhere, when someone says 'you should do this', it seems that your natural inclination is to doubt them, like
"you should get sleepyhead and look at your data",
and you respond with something like
"I don't think I can load anything onto my autoset"

instead of "sleepyhead? what's that?? and spend a couple minutes investigating, perhaps even typing it into the forum search bar, or even something like 'sleepyhead cpap' into google.

there's a tremendous wealth of information on this forum, all you have to do is open yourself up to it.

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Re: Less Leaks and Higher AHI - what's up with that?

Post by grifho » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:02 pm

sure.

the thing you might consider, like I said elsewhere, when someone says 'you should do this', it seems that your natural inclination is to doubt them, like
"you should get sleepyhead and look at your data",
and you respond with something like
"I don't think I can load anything onto my autoset"

instead of "sleepyhead? what's that?? and spend a couple minutes investigating, perhaps even typing it into the forum search bar, or even something like 'sleepyhead cpap' into google.

there's a tremendous wealth of information on this forum, all you have to do is open yourself up to it.
ok, sure, I guess the problem then is that I didn't do the follow-up research. Instead I was waiting for someone to inform me whether I could get sleepyhead on my machine, for example. ok, that's a fair comment. Point taken, and I'll be moving ahead and going to sleepyhead, and generally taking the advice I read here.