Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

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Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by SteveCruise » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:39 am

I lost 92lbs and no longer need it. Any idea of the value, I am interested in selling it.
Used Respironics REMstar Auto With C-Flex, Model 1017453 and REMstar Heated Humidifier

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:53 am

Did you have a sleep study that confirms the apnea is now gone?
If not, then the weight is just waiting for you to resume gasping to hurry back to your sleepy bod.
Weight that takes months to shed can return in WEEKS.
Congratulations for the big weight loss; hoping you can keep it off.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Pugsy » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:04 am

Is it this machine?
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... cflex.html

If so it probably isn't worth very much even if low hours of use. The Legacy series machines were discontinued somewhere around 2006/2007 I think.

Do you know how to find the machine run hours (not therapy hours) in case someone is interested?
In terms of value not much at all if high hours of use and maybe $50 to $100 if very low hours of use.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:19 pm

SteveCruise wrote:I lost 92lbs and no longer need it. Any idea of the value, I am interested in selling it.
Used Respironics REMstar Auto With C-Flex, Model 1017453 and REMstar Heated Humidifier
You're dreaming! For many people, the sleep apnea caused the weight gain and losing weight doesn't get rid of the sleep apnea. For some people, losing weight requires even higher pressures.

Some questions:

Have you had another sleep study ( after several nights of non-use ) to verify that you no longer have sleep apnea?

Have you been using the Encore software to monitor your therapy all through your CPAP therapy?

How long have you been using the machine?

What is the firmware level ( first number that appears in the LCD screen, which will either be 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 or 2.8 when you plug it in )?

What are the "blower" hours ( second number that appears in the LCD screen when you plug it in )?

I've been using those machines for over 10 years ( they're listed in my profile ) and know them backward, forward and inside out.


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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by SteveCruise » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:13 pm

ChunkyFrog & Wulfman:
No, I have not had a followup study done but I can sleep on my back now without constantly waking up at night. At any rate, it was always a HUGE pain to travel with and be reliant on so I'm happy to be done with it all the same.
I'm NEVER putting the weight back on so that wont be an issue.

Pugsy:
Yes, that's the machine and I have no idea how to look at hours.

Wulfman:
No monitoring software other than occasional use of an IPhone app called "Sleep Cycle".
Roughly 5 years of use
No idea of firmware or blower hours but will look.

Thanks for the replies.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:29 pm

SteveCruise wrote:ChunkyFrog & Wulfman:
No, I have not had a followup study done but I can sleep on my back now without constantly waking up at night. At any rate, it was always a HUGE pain to travel with and be reliant on so I'm happy to be done with it all the same.
I'm NEVER putting the weight back on so that wont be an issue.

Pugsy:
Yes, that's the machine and I have no idea how to look at hours.

Wulfman:
No monitoring software other than occasional use of an IPhone app called "Sleep Cycle".
Roughly 5 years of use
No idea of firmware or blower hours but will look.

Thanks for the replies.
So, without monitoring your therapy with software or having a followup sleep study, you really have NO idea as to whether you still have sleep apnea or not. Just losing weight doesn't mean diddly squat. We're not trying to be nasty or sarcastic, but if I had a dollar for each time somebody came on the forum declaring they lost weight and now wish to sell their machine because they THINK they no longer have sleep apnea.........I'd be reasonably wealthy. We've all heard this so many times before. And, there are LOTS of "normal" and "slender" people who have sleep apnea, too. The WEIGHT doesn't necessarily CAUSE the sleep apnea. It's usually the other way around.

Just trying to be realistic.


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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:38 pm

SteveCruise wrote:ChunkyFrog & Wulfman:
No, I have not had a followup study done but I can sleep on my back now without constantly waking up at night. At any rate, it was always a HUGE pain to travel with and be reliant on so I'm happy to be done with it all the same.
I'm NEVER putting the weight back on so that wont be an issue.

Pugsy:
Yes, that's the machine and I have no idea how to look at hours.

Wulfman:
No monitoring software other than occasional use of an IPhone app called "Sleep Cycle".
Roughly 5 years of use
No idea of firmware or blower hours but will look.

Thanks for the replies.
Something else just occurred to me. If you were using that APAP/Auto in a range of pressures......and trying to sleep on your back (which is the WORST position for apneas), the machine was probably changing pressures all night long and THAT is what was disturbing your sleep. In other words, your sleeping position and the machine settings were probably screwing up your sleep (waking you up). The machine was doing what it was designed to do, but you were sabotaging your therapy with your sleep position and the machine settings. I'd bet dollars to donuts that you STILL HAVE sleep apnea.


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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Julie » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:49 pm

They know what they're talking about... if nothing else consider your family waking up one a.m. to find you're no longer part of it. Do NOT assume anything, back or front or side sleeping means little and you're no judge of what happens when you're asleep. Symptoms may return so slowly you won't realize it until it's too late. Get another study.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by zoocrewphoto » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:00 pm

I had sleep apnea for at least 10 years, probably closer to 20 years before I got my cpap machine. I thought I slept fine, just noisy. I wouldn't base a decision to quit cpap on how I thought I slept. I know I was completely unaware of how severe I was.

You really need another sleep study to see how you are really doing. Otherwise, you could be throwing away your help.

If you find that you still have sleep apnea, there are much newer machines, and you have been using a cpap long enough that insurance should cover a newer one. They are smaller, quieter, and easier to get data. And we can help you make it more ideal so that is not such a hassle for you.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by CRMW » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:04 pm

Just to speak to the value of the machine. Ask for $50 and settle for what ever you can get. They are tough machines but several generations out of date. I have picked up a couple that people were giving away and I paid for the shipping.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by SteveCruise » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:37 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
SteveCruise wrote:ChunkyFrog & Wulfman:
No, I have not had a followup study done but I can sleep on my back now without constantly waking up at night. At any rate, it was always a HUGE pain to travel with and be reliant on so I'm happy to be done with it all the same.
I'm NEVER putting the weight back on so that wont be an issue.

Pugsy:
Yes, that's the machine and I have no idea how to look at hours.

Wulfman:
No monitoring software other than occasional use of an IPhone app called "Sleep Cycle".
Roughly 5 years of use
No idea of firmware or blower hours but will look.

Thanks for the replies.
Something else just occurred to me. If you were using that APAP/Auto in a range of pressures......and trying to sleep on your back (which is the WORST position for apneas), the machine was probably changing pressures all night long and THAT is what was disturbing your sleep. In other words, your sleeping position and the machine settings were probably screwing up your sleep (waking you up). The machine was doing what it was designed to do, but you were sabotaging your therapy with your sleep position and the machine settings. I'd bet dollars to donuts that you STILL HAVE sleep apnea.


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The constant waking was before the machine, not during. While using the machine, I never had a problem.
I understand, appreciate and agree that I still have sleep apnea...never claimed I didn't. However, I am no longer experiencing the problems which led me to seek a solution in the first place. Furthermore, I travel a lot, hike/camp a lot and now due to weight loss and a divorce, date a lot. So, carting around a machine just doesn't fit my lifestyle. Say what you will, I say good riddance.
As to my original question, thanks for the input. For $50 its not even worth the hassle.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by zoocrewphoto » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:41 pm

Yikes. Did you know that most people get worse over years? So, at some point, your symptoms will return. Also, sleep apnea is a slow killer, but a killer nonetheless. It causes stress to your organs as they struggle with inadequate oxygen. Over time, that will give you a high risk of stroke and heart attack. My doctor was warning me of stroke at age 37. If I had known at that time, that the main risk factor was my sleep apnea, I would have gotten a cpap machine right away. Instead, I let it go a couple more years before I realized the true danger.

I wish you well with your health. You are welcome to come back when you are ready.

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Re: Value of REMstar Auto With C-Flex with heater/humidifier

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:44 pm

You never said how many blower hours it had on it or the firmware level.
Plug it in and carefully watch the numbers that appear in the LCD. Write them down and tell us. Just curious.

But, I'd strongly suggest keeping the machine and all the supplies for use later on.


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