Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
I really shouldn't get in the middle of some things - not when it's not my business. Maybe I just have an easier time relating to the way some people express themselves than others... not to pick sides or anything.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
Palerider and Bleepingbeauty are correct. Enchanter needs a dose of reality. Enabling Enchanter's codependent behavior is not helping him. He has shown little to no progress.palerider wrote:what is RIGHT and life according to you are often very different things.49er wrote:Hmm, so that is justification for bullying and verbally assaulting someone on this board? Is that the the type of board you want this to be?
If you are the good guy PR that people claim you are, there is no way in heck you should be defending BB's behavior even if she is your friend. Good guys don't do this by saying that reality is often unkind. They stand up for what is right.
put on your thinking hat and step back, and examine the reality of what has happened...
months of posts, untold hours of advice and help, allegedly donated equipment, and yet what progress has been made?
still no reported diagnosis, still no evidence of a sleep study, no reports of any results, absolutely NO knowledge has been transferred into the incessant questioner... someone who can't put a mask together after being given multiple videos showing clearly how it works. someone who pops up YOUTUBE COMMENTS as subject matter...
it's been a long, winding road, and yet, we're just about in the same place we were at the beginning.
what is RIGHT? the complete insanity of continuing to do the same, ineffective, non-productive thing over, and over, and over?
what would be RIGHT would be to refuse to respond to ANY MORE of his posts, and just say "tell your mom or dad to log in" do do what kaiasgram said BACK IN APRIL: "In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care. "
that's what I think is RIGHT.
of course, you won't agree, because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
If Enchanter has OSA, his current behavior is not likely to get him far in today's healthcare climate.
Insurance will take back the machine if he is noncompliant.
Doctors will find a way to get rid of patients that take too much of their time and are not showing signs of progress.
Even behavioral therapists will discharge patient's who are not showing signs of progress.
Insurance no longer pays for treatment that is not working.
Enchanter needs a bit of tough love and he needs a very good therapist that can help him turn his behavior around.
Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
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+1 Well said.
+1 Well said.
49er wrote:Hmm, so that is justification for bullying and verbally assaulting someone on this board? Is that the the type of board you want this to be?palerider wrote:reality is often unkind, just watch national geographic.49er wrote:Come on BB, if you don't have anything positive to contribute, stay away from this thread. What is to be gained from demeaning another forum member by telling him he is a joke and cursing him?
If you are the good guy PR that people claim you are, there is no way in heck you should be defending BB's behavior even if she is your friend. Good guys don't do this by saying that reality is often unkind. They stand up for what is right.
49er
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
NO. I had my uvula removed along with some of my palate & tonsils (also removed) when they did my uvulopalatopharyngoplasty about 12 yrs ago. All it did was relieve some of the snoring for about maybe 6 months, and I still have to use CPAP. And now if I am not careful and paying close attention when I swallow liquids, they sometimes go up my nose! I wish I had never done it. I have heard some relatively new thing about a procedure where Drs can suspend your tongue with sutures and some kind of device they insert in your throat area,-- can't remember what it is called, but ENT Drs probably could tell you about it.
Don't have your entire uvula removed, it didn't help me. Some people get relief from sleep apnea by using a dental appliance that positions your bottom jaw a little further out than your upper jaw to keep the tongue from falling back. Ask your dentist about it. It is not cheap to have the dental appliance made but might save your from using CPAP that is about the same amount of money but the CPAP has continuing costs for filters, masks, tubing, etc over the years. The dental appliance is a one time cost and lasts many years if careful to not break it.
Don't have your entire uvula removed, it didn't help me. Some people get relief from sleep apnea by using a dental appliance that positions your bottom jaw a little further out than your upper jaw to keep the tongue from falling back. Ask your dentist about it. It is not cheap to have the dental appliance made but might save your from using CPAP that is about the same amount of money but the CPAP has continuing costs for filters, masks, tubing, etc over the years. The dental appliance is a one time cost and lasts many years if careful to not break it.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
considering your completely unfair and unbalanced record of who you support and who you shame....Papit wrote:.
+1 Well said.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
Actually, you ARE growing on me lately, PR.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
Papit wrote:Actually, you ARE growing on me lately, PR.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
Pale Rider, why do you think it said that complex apnea was noted in my study? Come on man, you're a genius.
My Current Therapies
- CPAP + Humidifier
- Allergy Shots + nose Spray + Hepa Air Purifier
- Cardiovascular Exercise + Stretching
- CPAP + Humidifier
- Allergy Shots + nose Spray + Hepa Air Purifier
- Cardiovascular Exercise + Stretching
Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
because it was, why do YOU think it says that?Enchanter wrote:Pale Rider, why do you think it said that complex apnea was noted in my study? Come on man, you're a genius.
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Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
palerider wrote:because it was, why do YOU think it says that?Enchanter wrote:Pale Rider, why do you think it said that complex apnea was noted in my study? Come on man, you're a genius.
I'm asking you because I think u have a better idea
My Current Therapies
- CPAP + Humidifier
- Allergy Shots + nose Spray + Hepa Air Purifier
- Cardiovascular Exercise + Stretching
- CPAP + Humidifier
- Allergy Shots + nose Spray + Hepa Air Purifier
- Cardiovascular Exercise + Stretching
Re: Is getting surgery for the Uvula effective for OSA?
no, you're asking because you're either fucking with us, or you're asking us to think for you.Enchanter wrote:palerider wrote:because it was, why do YOU think it says that?Enchanter wrote:Pale Rider, why do you think it said that complex apnea was noted in my study? Come on man, you're a genius.
I'm asking you because I think u have a better idea
either is bullshit.
answer the question.
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