FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Tue May 26, 2015 4:13 am

Remote via phone at the moment, so I have to get to a computer to get the info, but I never loaded any software for the card to work with it. There is software from Toshiba that can update the firmware and rebuild the card.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Tue May 26, 2015 4:32 am

You can get the FlashAir Firmware Update tool at: http://www.toshiba.co.jp/p-media/englis ... ol_w02.htm

This is for the W-02 card!

Tool is a little bit funky, has you insert and remove (properly) the card a couple times and can not only check the firmware level, but also rebuild the card and the files it needs (IE make it look like it came from the factory).

I've used this tool numerous times while playing with the card when I first got it and used it to upgrade the firmware of the original card I had which was older.

The tool is NOT needed normally. Only if you end up removing all the files and need to get back or if there is actual firmware update. For the most part, I just leave the card in the CPAP once configured.
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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by mralaska » Tue May 26, 2015 5:51 am

On my w7 computer and PRS1 machine I finally found the FlashPAP / Flashair / Sleepyhead combination to be the perfect solution for me. By Flashair I mean just the Flashair card, I found the Flashair software not to be worth the time to install (at least not for the purpose of configuring the card).

In between forgetting to put the card in protected mode when reading data to forgetting to replace the card back into the CPAP machine; I got fed up and went searching for a wireless solution. Even though I later found tricks to make sure I remember to replace the card, it still bothered me removing and replacing a card into a machine that may not have been designed for such repetition.

Sleepmaster has a lot of fans and support because it came out first and provided a workable and timely solution to a need. However, I did not click on those links at first because I was confusing it with Sleepmapper that I had already considered and discarded which led to getting involved in the beta testing of FlashPAP for PRS1. Sleepmaster can and does work for many/most people and it was functional for me but it had a limp on my system (partially due to a loose nut on the keyboard). The Sleepmaster app makes some configuration and functional decisions which are minor irritations for me but in my case it also kept going "brain dead" which might have sent me back to the SD slot. I found a FAQ on the Sleepmaster site that said I need to assign a permanent IP address to the card when this happens but in my case I was a low tech operator stuck with a high tech router which I have yet to figure out.

When I received the beta copy of FlashPAP that I had to learn how to undo the changes made both by Sleepmaster and the Flashair software to get working but it turned out to be pretty easy. It would have been even easier if I had access at the time to the FlashPAP Manual Config instructions posted by Krelvin.

I heartily recommend both Flashair II card (I think the original CL6 flashair cards will also work with FlashPAP) and FlashPAP to read it as long as you do not mind a few minutes configuring it by hand. The only 'issue' I have had is with the card itself which the wireless seems to go to sleep two or three times a week and I need to pop it out and then back into the machine to wake it up. I would prefer not to physically remove/replace it but I have not found a way to wake it up otherwise (even rebooting the PRS1 did not help).

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Wed May 27, 2015 8:58 pm

I can see it was quite a learning curve, mralaska. Ditto for me. Your pointer, Krelvin, to the Update Tool should have worked. Alas, it restored only two of the three original card folders, but not GUPIXINF. The SD aliens also had some fun, making the card permanently read-only, confirmed by my camera, despite trying a couple work arounds. The supplier emailed me a return mailing label and will do a refund. So I have a new 8GB FlashAir III on order ($27). The only difference compared to the FlashAir II is mentioned as,

"This latest generation version of Toshiba's wireless SD card includes "enhancement" management features for sharing and maintaining one's content, being accessible through a PC's Web browser. Says the maker, the integrated WiFi lets users transfer content sans an outside Internet connection . . . " Review writers for these cards usually think about camera applications and photo sharing. For our xpap purposes, looks like the new III model should be essentially the same as the FlashAir II and perhaps make data connections a tad quicker.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:54 am

Just got a Toshiba 8GB FlashAir W-03 card and changed the CONFIG file per your TNET pages on the topic. My S9 VPAP Adapt responds with "Invalid SD card. Erase card data? Yes/No?" Either of you have any ideas? Although I change APPMODE=4 to 5, something reverts it back to 4. This is what my modified CONFIG file was and now is:

Was: Original SD WLAN CONFIG file:[Vendor]

CIPATH=/DCIM/100__TSB/FA000001.JPG
APPMODE=4
APPNETWORKKEY=********
VERSION=FA9CAW3AW3.00.00
CID=02544d535730384731c5bc4e7900f301
PRODUCT=FlashAir
VENDOR=TOSHIBA

Now: Modified SD WLAN CONFIG file: [Vendor]

CIPATH=/DCIM/100__TSB/FA000001.JPG
APPMODE=4
VERSION=FA9CAW3AW3.00.00
CID=02544d535730384731c5bc4e7900f301
PRODUCT=FlashAir
VENDOR=TOSHIBA
APPNAME=APPNAME
APPSSID=MySSID
APPNETWORKKEY=MySSID_Password
LOCK=1
DNSMODE=0
APPAUTOTIME=0
UPLOAD=1
NOISE_CANCEL=2

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:08 am

What os are you using?
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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by AlanE » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:56 pm

Using this with W-03 and works just fine. I haven't had the time to look into scripting that runs when a file is written to push to my PC. It's on the list.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:21 pm

Krelvin wrote:What os are you using?
I'm using Windows 7, Service Pack 1, 64-bit machine.
AlanE wrote:Using this with W-03 and works just fine. I haven't had the time to look into scripting that runs when a file is written to push to my PC. It's on the list.
What OS are you using, Alan? Did you use the card right out of the box without making any changes to the oem's folders that came with it? Or did you first configure the card rather than use it as it came out of the box? I take it you do not yet see the remote xpap installed SD card on you PC as a new drive.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:27 pm

Papit wrote:To AlanE: I take it you do not yet see the remote xpap installed SD card on you PC as a new drive.
They ONLY time you would see the card as a drive on your PC is if you plug it into your PC directly.

As a WIFI device,
In APPMODE=5 it will act like a client to your existing Access Point where would allow you to talk to it via a browser or by using one of the software tools that are setup to that.

In APPMODE=4 it will create it's own SSID for you to connect to it, but you will most likely lose any other network while connected to it which is why the STA (Station) Mode using APPMODE=5 is easier to use.
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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:23 am

Exactly how you wrote and saved your changes to the SD_WLAN config file (e.g., APPMODE 4 to 5) remains a mystery. So I reformatted and restored the card with it's standard three folders: DCIM, GUPIXINE, SD_WLAN. My S9 VPAP is displaying, "Invalid SD card. Erase card data? Yes/No?" The card's read-only toggle is in the unlocked (upper) position. I am now a no-tech operator in an effort to use this hi-tech card. To see if my xpap will accept it, I'll attempt to configure it by using the utility software provided for the card. While the instructions don't talk about CPAP use and focus almost exclusively on digital camera use, based on your earlier work, do you think FlashPAP will be of help in making this newer card compatible with my S9 VPAP and other people's xpap machines? The literature says that this newer model (only) card can be set for "Automatic Startup" mode while it is inserted in a camera or other device it is normally used in. It makes no mention of a need to modify it's oem-provided folders on the card.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:55 am

Papit wrote:Exactly how you wrote and saved your changes to the SD_WLAN config file (e.g., APPMODE 4 to 5) remains a mystery.
Look at step 3 - https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/flashp ... nfig/step3

You will need to use some sort of text editor. Notepad etc. (added to the page for those who didn't understand that part)
It makes no mention of a need to modify it's oem-provided folders on the card.
I don't modify or change any of the folders themselves. When done, the hidden folders are are still hidden.

You did read the instructions right? You have to modify the CONFIG in the SD_WLAN hidden directory on the card to change the coding. If you don't do that, the card will act as if it was originally programmed out of the box.

Please read step 3 - https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/flashp ... nfig/step3

The last step at the bottom shows what is on the card after it has been in the CPAP machine. Different CPAP machines write different info so what you see is from an S9 VPAP Auto. A Philips/Resprionics 60 Series writes different files.

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So I reformatted and restored the card with it's standard three folders: DCIM, GUPIXINE, SD_WLAN. My S9 VPAP is displaying, "Invalid SD card. Erase card data? Yes/No?" The card's read-only toggle is in the unlocked (upper) position. I am now a no-tech operator in an effort to use this hi-tech card. To see if my xpap will accept it, I'll attempt to configure it by using the utility software provided for the card. While the instructions don't talk about CPAP use and focus almost exclusively on digital camera use, based on your earlier work, do you think FlashPAP will be of help in making this newer card compatible with my S9 VPAP and other people's xpap machines? The literature says that this newer model (only) card can be set for "Automatic Startup" mode while it is inserted in a camera or other device it is normally used in.
I say how to do it in the instructions. The only reference to using a camera was a quick test that the configuration works with any device which uses an SDCard. Did you try that? I eliminates playing with the CPAP until you have the CONFIG file working.

AFTER testing that it worked with the camera, the next test was putting it into the CPAP machine which then worked as needed.

I have not had my S9 VPAP Auto say "Invalid SD card. Erase card data? Yes/No?".

I asked what OS you had because you have to have the card as read/write to write to the config file in your computer, but since you have Win7 you should have no problem with the hidden file issues.

IF you use the configuration utility, you can restore the card back to original status and try again.

Note that the test was done with a brand new out of the box Toshiba 16GB FlashAir II W-02 card. It had never been used in anything before.

The W-03 card has an additional programming statement STA_RETRY_CT=0 which will allow the card to "Number of connection retries in STA mode". This simply if you have a W-03 card, allows the card to keep trying to connect if it can't. It doesn't exist if you have a W-02 card.

If you are still having problems PM me and I can arrange to look at your computer and the card remotely.

I have received responses from 11 or 12 people now who have used the instructions that it worked for them.
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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:39 am

Krelvin wrote:
Papit wrote:Exactly how you wrote and saved your changes to the SD_WLAN config file (e.g., APPMODE 4 to 5) remains a mystery.
Look at step 3 - https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/flashp ... nfig/step3

You will need to use some sort of text editor. Notepad etc. (added to the page for those who didn't understand that part)
That helped. My changes to the config file were accepted and saved. The card passed the ISP AP test when installed in a digital camera. Identifiable by its Mac address, it was detected and showed up as "Active". Now to see about it in my xpap machine. So far, the machine gives me an "Invalid card" message. And in repeating the ISP AP test, it is detected but shows as "Inactive" when in the S9 VPAP Adapt. More by pm. Thanks for the handholding.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:33 pm

For those overviewing this adventure, it appears that the S9 VPAP Adapt, at least in the ASV Auto mode, doesn't like even properly configured Toshiba FlashAir models II and III wireless SD cards using FlashPAP. Thanks for the close-up checking and pm's with me, Krelvin. The other tests using the FlashAir SD passed nicely on ISP AP recognition, computer wireless network connection and in my digital camera. So this wireless card works everywhere I've tried except in my xpap. You can see now what was behind my interest today re. finding a firmware update that might get rid of those 'invalid card' responses. I'll probably go back later to see whether the same card error messages come up in the non-Auto ASV mode.

Tonight I'm going to give the FlashAir card another shot using SleepMaster and see if S9 will behave. Over the next few days I'll test it in both ASV modes. The setup is shown below with all four steps having been completed. Testing will be done tomorrow and over the next few days.

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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Krelvin » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:08 am

Papit wrote:I understand SleepMaster can be quite balky, so I won't hold my breath , so to speak.
It is not balky, just different. It actually has quite a setup system which makes it easier for some to get started.

You don't need to leave it running. Run it in the morning to see if it will read your data.
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Re: FlashPAP Java Wireless WiFi SDCard Transfer - Win/Mac/Linux

Post by Papit » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:23 pm

My experiment is now expanded to two ResMed machines. I have two S9's, an AutoSet and a VPAP Adapt, both built in 2011. Both machines don't seem to like my Toshiba wireless SD card. The card tests well used with both FlashPAP and SleepMaster. I'm satisfied the SD_WLAN CONFIG file on the card is modified per
https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/flashp ... nfig/step3 . Accessing my ISP's website, the card clearly shows up identified by its MAC address and its status is 'Active' when its in my digital camera.

In both of my S9 machines, an error message displays, " Invalid SD card, erase card data? Yes/No?" FlashPAP tells me my machine "Could not find expected folder" -- e.g., a "Datalog" folder in one response, a "P-series" folder in another. Not surprising as neither machine wants to recognize or write to the card for some reason. I don't know why another brand card would work any better. Any ideas?

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