What is your Variable Breathing percent?

Bob... · Post by **Bob...** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:20 pm

For REMstar and MyEncore users.

Does the "Fraction of Time in Variable Breathing" chart in MyEncore really tell us anything?

Who knows, or maybe a better question would be, who cares? Anyway let's see how I/we compare to the rest of the MyEncore users in the CPAPTalk community.

I have a 51.1 % average, how about you!

Bob

Moogy · Post by **Moogy** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:23 pm

You have 51%! Please share with me! I am lucky to break 20, but that is better than the ZERO REM I got in my first sleep study.

Moogy

Bob... · Post by **Bob...** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:40 pm

Hi Moogy,

The problem is I don't know which is BEST, 20 or 51!

See my "Second" poll.

Bob

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:54 pm

WTF? Man you must really have time on your hands. You guys spend so much time time on stuff you know nothing about.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:11 pm

Anonymous wrote:WTF? Man you must really have time on your hands. You guys spend so much time time on stuff you know nothing about.

Not really! Don't know what it really means and don't particularly care. Just happen to know what my numbers are and was informing Bob... of same. (since he asked)

BTW.....YOU must have lots of time on your hands, too......

Have a good day.

Den

different guest · Post by **different guest** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:47 pm

Having neither REMstar nor MyEncore, what is 'variable breathing'???

Moogy · Post by **Moogy** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:48 pm

Anonymous wrote:WTF? Man you must really have time on your hands. You guys spend so much time time on stuff you know nothing about.

Someone give this guy a CPAP! I think he is overly crabby--maybe it is from lack of sleep.

Moogy

Moogy · Post by **Moogy** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:50 pm

different guest wrote:Having neither REMstar nor MyEncore, what is 'variable breathing'???

It is a loose measure of how long you spent in REM sleep. Not an exact match, since to do that, you would need electrodes on to measure your brain waves. As far as I know, they don't have that option on any CPAP yet...

Moogy

Amigo · Post by **Amigo** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:31 pm

Anonymous wrote:WTF? Man you must really have time on your hands. You guys spend so much time time on stuff you know nothing about.

It would appear that for some Sleep Apnea has been replaced by an Obsessive-Compulsive disorder...lol.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:57 pm

Two months into treatment I was running 40 to 45, I also was still waking up a little during the nights, kind of resless. Now at 5 months I've settled down to the low 30's and sleep much sounder. I think I owed so much sleep to my body it accounted for the higher numbers. I sleep pretty sound now and always 8 houra with AHI's under 2. I'm happy with that. Jim

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:55 am

VARIABLE BREATHING, according to the Respironics patent, occurs when:
1. The patient is awake
2. The patient is in REM sleep
3. The patient is in distress

If I understand this correctly, that would mean comparing your variable breathing percentage to someone else's isn't going to tell you much. It depends on which of those 3 causes (and how much from each cause) is contributing to your variable breathing figure. If you could know for a fact that your variable breathing rate was primarily the result of REM sleep (not distress, or laying awake), that would be good. On the other hand, if you could know for a fact that your variable breathing rate is primarily the result of being awake or in distress (and not in REM sleep) that would be bad.
Here is a previous post by derek, the author of the MyEncore software:

derek wrote:Sounds like you are using MyEncore - because those are the exact words I use on the graph.

From the Respironics Patent:

"... The Auto-CPAP... relies on the ability to trend the steady rhythmic breath patterns associated with certain stages of sleep. When a patient is awake, in REM sleep, or in distress, breathing breathing tends to be more erratic, and the Auto-CPAP trending becomes unstable. It is, therefore, important to interrupt the Auto-CPAP if the patient's breathing becomes too variable...."
Once the APAP has decided you are in "variable breathing", the actions it takes are quite complex (according to this patent).

I have no idea what a good value is. I average around 33% according to MyEncore.

I simply take the variable breathing as a measure of how "peaceful" your night was. In other words its a measure of how much of the night you were not having slow steady breaths,

derek

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MrSandman · Post by **MrSandman** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:45 pm

Searching old posts and bumped some up for SWS and SAG and DSM and anyone concerning VB%. I guess it has been discussed a lot already .

I am the highest on this so you know. I hoped when I found it to find others as high. I was around 85% last night.

It looks like someone decided it sorta represents time in REM. Since I have been sleep deprived for many years maybe I am in major rem rebound combined with Lexapro maybe causing more rem sleep?

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