Anybody using an S9 with a pulse oximeter ?

[Paul1970]

I have just purchased an S9 and would like to use it with a pulse oximeter as when I had my sleep study done I would occasionally drop as low as 83%

I would like to be able to monitor this as, AFAIK 83% is quite low.

Anyway I've tried to find out on the internet what pulse oximeter will work with a S9 and how to connect etc. but have come across very little information apart from that I need some adapter that plugs into the back of the S9, so I was wondering if someone here is using the S9 with a pulse oximeter and if you could give me details of the setup, eg pulse oximeter make, model number etc.

TIA

[DreamDiver]

I have just purchased an S9 and would like to use it with a pulse oximeter as when I had my sleep study done I would occasionally drop as low as 83%

I would like to be able to monitor this as, AFAIK 83% is quite low.

Anyway I've tried to find out on the internet what pulse oximeter will work with a S9 and how to connect etc. but have come across very little information apart from that I need some adapter that plugs into the back of the S9, so I was wondering if someone here is using the S9 with a pulse oximeter and if you could give me details of the setup, eg pulse oximeter make, model number etc.

TIA

Welcome to the forum.

A number of us have been interested in this. The problem always seems to be that insurance won't cover it, so most internet distributors don't carry the parts. Also, the oximetry bundle is probably more expensive than the S9, humidifier and climateline hose together. Nobody will give us a quote. You will probably have to ask a local DME to 'fence' it for you at an even higher price. This part of the system really is a racket.

Most of us just buy an external oximeter and line up the condensed graphs with image editing software thus:


It's definitely cheaper - just more of a hassle. You don't need a prescription to buy an oximeter, so if they were to make the oximetry bundle available on line, you could buy the reslink and oximetry components, even if you can't buy the cpap machine.

Unfortunately, ResMed has elected to use a proprietary connection for it's oximetry components - so the Xpod components they're originally based on have to be bought from ResMed, unless you're willing to void your S9 warranty and try to rig up something home-made. As far as I know, nobody on the forum has yet physically seen an i5 Reslink or its oximetry bundle.

This has been one of the saddest design flaws of the S9. Building components so you have to buy the S9 version is muddle-headed design. ResMed was brilliant when they went with open architecture on the software. I cannot conceive of any reason why they shouldn't go with open architecture on the hardware - other than because they are bowing from pressure by large DME's to make it more difficult for home users to buy it. The ResLink component should have been built into the S9. The oximetry bundle should have been standard xpod components. Oximetry components in general could bear industry standardization.

[reeleast]

I just returned from my sleep specialist Dr's office. He is a young Neurologist who seems quite on the ball. Your 23 second central had no obvious O2 desaturation because, according to this Doc, Central sleep apnea events are not always O2 droppers. They are sometimes a signal from the brain; " I've got enough O2' , take a break." You do this all the time during the day, but don't notice them. I also share your frustration about the Resmed oximeter adapter for the S9. When I called them, they said that the adapter had been released to DME providers in the US. They also have a more durable "apnea link" sensor available. This is the three pin finger sensor bit that plugs into the fussy port on back. It is just a matter of time before our mustered "black market forces" get our hands on them. Be patient. Who am I kidding? I have considered buying the PM 60A from "pulseoximeteronline.com". It uses an SD card and you can view results on a big screen instead of having to download, correlate, etc.
My sleep Doc said the dangerous Obstructive apneas are the ones to watch. Anything under 90% SpO2 is a concern. Has anyone noticed the annoying whistle the S9 makes on exhale? Since the machine is so quiet, it stands out. Enough ranting. Good luck with the therapy. Let us know when you score the coveted Adapter!

[Gerald]

Paul..

Probably your easiest solution is to purchase a SPO-7500 Oximeter (good software comes with it) for about $400 US. It's made in Israel, so it should be available worldwide. I got mine from turnermedical.com and I've been very happy with it.

[dave21]

Has anyone noticed the annoying whistle the S9 makes on exhale? Since the machine is so quiet, it stands out.

Yes, I've mentioned this to ResMed in my initial tests of my S9, they didn't seem to be aware of it but said they would investigate. For the most part you get used to it and tune it out, but sometimes you do hear it now and again. It tends to be more noticeable when you exhale strongly.

Thanks
Dave

[DreamDiver]

Has anyone noticed the annoying whistle the S9 makes on exhale? Since the machine is so quiet, it stands out.

Here's the audio smackdown I did when I tested it against the M-Series Pro. I can't be sure without doing another sample, but it seems to be growing less noticeable over time. Or maybe as dave21 suggests, I'm just learning to tune it out. I am not annoyed by it. It just exists.

I saw that pulseox machine you're talking about a month ago and drooled over it then. However, I have a functioning one for now. I think I'll wait for a while before buying another. It would be great to hear your review if you get one.

[johnharada02]

I'm not using S9 with Pulse oximeter but me and my maximum friends use SantaMedical SM-150 fingertip Pulse Oximeter. It's a simple device which allows you to monitor pulse rate and SpO2.

[JDS74]

I just noticed that the OP was from 2010 and this thread was resurrected.

I have just purchased an S9 and would like to use it with a pulse oximeter as when I had my sleep study done I would occasionally drop as low as 83%
I would like to be able to monitor this as, AFAIK 83% is quite low.
Anyway I've tried to find out on the internet what pulse oximeter will work with a S9 and how to connect etc. but have come across very little information apart from that I need some adapter that plugs into the back of the S9, so I was wondering if someone here is using the S9 with a pulse oximeter and if you could give me details of the setup, eg pulse oximeter make, model number etc.
TIA

I use the Respironics adapter on my PR960 machine and the data is correctly integrated with the regular reports from Encore Pro, the Respironics version of ResScan.

It was a huge hassle finding a DME who would get the components. I'll dig around to see if I can find a DME who will supply similar equipment for the S9.
Edit: Search for "ResMed Oximeter Adapter 378400" and several DME's come up as possible sources.

OTOH, if you use SleepyHead as monitoring software, it supports importing data from the CMS50F fingertip pulse oximeter (among others) and integrates the data in the reports. I got mine (which I no longer use for overnite at home) from Cooper Medical (http://www.coopermedical.com/.) This might be an acceptable solution. I noticed about a 1% reported difference between the CMS50F SpO2 data and the Masimo (PR's supplier) data. So an average of 94% on the Masimo seemed to be about a 93% on the CMS50F.

In conversations with JediMark on this forum (developer of SleepyHead,) he indicated that the S9 integrated oximeter data was integrated into SleepyHead some time ago. I took this to mean he had access to the data from some other forum member who has an S9 with oximeter setup. You might try dropping him a PM and asking him for a contact if he has one here in the States (he is in Australia.)

[metsfan302]

I use a S9 and I also use this recording pulse ox - they line up nice in sleepyhead

CMS 50D+ Blue Finger Pulse Oximeter with USB and Sofware - was like $38 bucks

was way cheaper then the orig s9 one

[palerider]

In conversations with JediMark on this forum (developer of SleepyHead,) he indicated that the S9 integrated oximeter data was integrated into SleepyHead some time ago.

it IS documented in the wiki...

[IDontSnoreISwear]

I researched this as well, because my desats were so concerning during sleep study.

My machine at the time -- DeVilbiss IntelliPAP AutoAdjust, list price $450ish, has an oximeter port and you can actually buy the cable to attach to the oximeter, but the cable costs SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS. Still cheaper than going to the lab for a sleep study (even if you have to buy the IntelliPAP to do it), but a ripoff nonetheless.

[palerider]

I researched this as well, because my desats were so concerning during sleep study.

My machine at the time -- DeVilbiss IntelliPAP AutoAdjust, list price $450ish, has an oximeter port and you can actually buy the cable to attach to the oximeter, but the cable costs SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS. Still cheaper than going to the lab for a sleep study (even if you have to buy the IntelliPAP to do it), but a ripoff nonetheless.

I *vastly* prefer the wrist mounted ones, less wires to get tangled in while sleeping.