News spot today in Indy-clinical trial

sweetdreams · Post by **sweetdreams** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:26 pm

First patient with the trial procedure was shown on tonights news. He apparently had good results, they're talking revolutionary for sleep apnea.

You can read about it on WTHR.com under Eyewitness Health, "New procedure helps sleep apnea".

How does it sound?

skjansen · Post by **skjansen** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Sounds a little strange with the anchors and all. But, if it works who cares!!!!!!!!!

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:42 pm

Bummer .... I always miss out on the cool stuff

My AHI is double there requirements ...

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:03 pm

interesting, looks like a fishing trip

my guess is one of the cpap manufacturers will buy this company out before we will ever see it become a routine procedure.

wasn't there a carburetor back in the mid 60's that allowed your car to get nearly 60MPG and it was bought out by an undisclosed oil company where we never heard about it again.

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:12 pm

I heard the same or similar tale about a 60 mpg carberator but figured it was some "urban legend". Heaven knows there's enough use for oil that the oil companies wouldn't miss a few drivers off the road. Only the rich would be able to afford that particular optional carberator.

And those anchor hooks look like real owies!!!!

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:23 pm

Slinky wrote:I heard the same or similar tale about a 60 mpg carberator but figured it was some "urban legend". Heaven knows there's enough use for oil that the oil companies wouldn't miss a few drivers off the road. Only the rich would be able to afford that particular optional carberator.

And those anchor hooks look like real owies!!!!

Nah those anchor hooks shouldn't hurt at all, there is no sensory nerves in that part of the tongue. Then where the screw is attached, I bet that doesn't hurt either. I had a few mandible dental implants installed due to eating a steering wheel in a car wreck, they numb you where they cut the tissue, then drill the hole and screw in the implant, no pain at all. This procedure looks very promising to me, it also looks reversible should there be a problem.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:59 pm

It looks tempting to be a guinea pig to help find something that might be one size fits all. And its here where I live and I do have moderately severe osa. Hear my knees knocking?

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:00 pm

Snoredog wrote:This procedure looks very promising to me, it also looks reversible should there be a problem.

Link to the video: http://tinyurl.com/2lupb9

Defiantly looks interesting. Looks like it really has a chance to actually work. Gawd I really do hope they find some type of procedure that actually works. I really don't want to spend the rest of my life on CPAP. (Although at this point I would do almost anything just to be able to use CPAP

Here is a link to the company that makes the device:
http://www.aspiremedical.com/tech_us.html

-James

PS I'm trying to make a list of all possible sleep apeana surgeries at http://sleepapnea.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Surgery Have I missed any?

cpapernewbie · Post by **cpapernewbie** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:21 pm

interesting!

here is the condition of acceptance for trail ops:
ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA

Patient must:

* have been diagnosed with moderate-to-severe OSA,
* be between the age of 18 and 65,
* have a Body Mass Index (BMI) of no greater than 32,
* have been offered continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) and has refused or failed to continue CPAP treatment,
* have evidence of airway collapse at the base of the tongue.

ENROLLMENT

If you feel you may qualify for our clinical trial based on the requirements above and would like to be considered for the clinical clinical, please click here and fill out the following questionnaire.

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:24 pm

Slinky wrote:I heard the same or similar tale about a 60 mpg carberator but figured it was some "urban legend". Heaven knows there's enough use for oil that the oil companies wouldn't miss a few drivers off the road. Only the rich would be able to afford that particular optional carberator.

And those anchor hooks look like real owies!!!!

Slinky

There was a guy called Ralph Sarich who invented an orbital engine that was supposed to be super efficient.

IIRC He sold rights to GM & Ford for many millions, they were interested in his engine but were supposed to be going to use his fuel injection technology.

His story ...
http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/austral ... e_id=10041

His company ...
http://www.orbeng.com.au/orbital/flash_index.htm

Then again, there may be another such inventor ,,,

DSM

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:37 pm

Reminds me of that thread a few months ago where someone suggested getting their tongue and nose pierced and tying a string between the two.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:18 pm

No doubt you have heard of the "Fish Carb", although the high mileage, also came from engine mod's too.

http://www.fireballroberts.com/Fish_Pictures.htm

I did work with a welder that lived over 100 miles away from the workplace. He bought a V.W. Rabbit Diesel, At the last I knew he drove it 300,000 miles, without a engine repair, and it got 50 M.P.G. Question, why do small cars not get near that good today, if it was possible in the 70's? Jim

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:01 am

Goofproof wrote:No doubt you have heard of the "Fish Carb", although the high mileage, also came from engine mod's too.

http://www.fireballroberts.com/Fish_Pictures.htm

I did work with a welder that lived over 100 miles away from the workplace. He bought a V.W. Rabbit Diesel, At the last I knew he drove it 300,000 miles, without a engine repair, and it got 50 M.P.G. Question, why do small cars not get near that good today, if it was possible in the 70's? Jim

So are you trying to say one can have this carborator implanted into the throat for better O2 milage?

jskinner · Post by **jskinner** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:04 am

http://www.sleepreviewmag.com/sleep_rep ... -30_06.asp

roster · Post by **roster** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:12 am

Goofproof wrote:No doubt you have heard of the "Fish Carb", although the high mileage, also came from engine mod's too.

http://www.fireballroberts.com/Fish_Pictures.htm

I did work with a welder that lived over 100 miles away from the workplace. He bought a V.W. Rabbit Diesel, At the last I knew he drove it 300,000 miles, without a engine repair, and it got 50 M.P.G. Question, why do small cars not get near that good today, if it was possible in the 70's? Jim

I am one of the geniuses that bought a Rabbit (gasoline) in the 70s. I also heard about the guy that drove 300,000 miles at 50 mpg. Was that an urban myth?

My Rabbit was a total lemon! I did find out that VW America would reimburse me for all repairs if I wrote them a nice letter and included copies of receipts from authorized VW dealers. I was reimbursed for repairs as late as 70,000 miles and then I sold the Rabbit to another genius.

VW had such a quality problem with the Rabbit, that they exited the US market entirely for about 10 years.

OK, sorry to get so off topic. Now get back: http://www.sleepreviewmag.com/sleep_rep ... -30_06.asp