I still can't get used to a nose mask for the whole night. Only 2 hours or so. I'm hoping the lighter nasal system and less obtrusive setup will give me some peace. Will a setting of 10cm, my top setting work with this type of system? Looking for comments on seeing if nasal worked when the larger stuff just couldn't be tolerated.
Rick.
looking for others using mirage swift nasal or other nasal
Well.... I used the Swift at a pressure of 9, and it worked fine. I am not currently using my CPAP machine, but that failure is more to do with peculiarities in how my brain works (or perhaps fails to work is more appropriate) than with the treatment itself.
That said, the closest I ever came to comfortably sleeping was with the swift. I couldn't get there with any of the full face masks they tried (even the Ultra Mirage, which was worlds better than any other I tried), nor with the Activa.
Good luck!
Liam, apparently still giving advice to people who are doing better than he is.
That said, the closest I ever came to comfortably sleeping was with the swift. I couldn't get there with any of the full face masks they tried (even the Ultra Mirage, which was worlds better than any other I tried), nor with the Activa.
Good luck!
Liam, apparently still giving advice to people who are doing better than he is.
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Nasal mask
I've used the Respironics Comfort-Lite Nasal for about 4 months and it has been ok, but not quite as stable as I would like.
I just purchased a Swift and tried it for the first time last night -I liked it. It seemed pretty stable but I did knock it about such that it leaked a bit. I'm going to try the 'large' pillow tonight and see how I do with it. The Swift leaves a Nike Swoosh imprint on the sides of my face, but they are gone by time I'm done my morning shower.
Good luck!
I just purchased a Swift and tried it for the first time last night -I liked it. It seemed pretty stable but I did knock it about such that it leaked a bit. I'm going to try the 'large' pillow tonight and see how I do with it. The Swift leaves a Nike Swoosh imprint on the sides of my face, but they are gone by time I'm done my morning shower.
Good luck!
Just a question. What is your backgroung ? Your interests ? I learned a long time ago to trust my equipment. I fly , I scuba dive, I was a firefighter, in the military. I even jumped out of a perfectly good airplane a few times. You learn to trust the gear to keep you alive or you just don't do it. Imagine a firefighter going into a burning building and thinking, "this SCBA isn't working for me. " He'd have a hellava time being a firefighter. Pilots are taught to trust their instruments (and cross check) . Scuba divers the same. You have to have faith that it works. But, but, you know what Dr. Laura says about but. Don't go there.
You must start by saying to yourself, for yourself ,that this treatment works. It will work. It MUST WoRK ! Why ? Because it does work !
You must get hold of your anxiety and make this work. Do not allow yourself to be a victim. That seems to be quite popular these days.
We all have days that are not perfect. cpap treatment is no different. We must make the best of it and not endulge in our little pitty parties. If we do everything becomes negociable. Our cpap treatment, our diet, or exercise. Then we end up worse off. Weighing 500 lbs and wondering why me.
Trust that in a few weeks things will be much better. It seems like hell now but it gets easier. Soon you will look forward to sleeping with your new PAL.
My rant isn't ment to be harsh . Please don't take it that way. Point is you MUST do this. Trust your cpap. Make it work. Find the best equipment for YOU. Try new things. Exercise. It really helps. Never give up.
Cheers,
Chris
You must start by saying to yourself, for yourself ,that this treatment works. It will work. It MUST WoRK ! Why ? Because it does work !
You must get hold of your anxiety and make this work. Do not allow yourself to be a victim. That seems to be quite popular these days.
We all have days that are not perfect. cpap treatment is no different. We must make the best of it and not endulge in our little pitty parties. If we do everything becomes negociable. Our cpap treatment, our diet, or exercise. Then we end up worse off. Weighing 500 lbs and wondering why me.
Trust that in a few weeks things will be much better. It seems like hell now but it gets easier. Soon you will look forward to sleeping with your new PAL.
My rant isn't ment to be harsh . Please don't take it that way. Point is you MUST do this. Trust your cpap. Make it work. Find the best equipment for YOU. Try new things. Exercise. It really helps. Never give up.
Cheers,
Chris
Chris,
You were not harsh. You were loud and clear. You hit the nail right on the head. Everything you said is soooo true and it applies to everything in life.
I needed to read that as I am having both knees replaced on April 11th and I have been brave but as the time gets closer, I am getting a little ansey about the whole long, slow process that is involved once the operation is over.
I think back to when I first was put on CPAP (July 2004) and how I hated it and how I thought I was suffocating me and how I could not keep the Activa on my face and would tear it off.........the whole ball of wax. But I realized how bad this disorder is and I was so determined that it would not beat me and that I would beat it. It took me 6 weeks to finally adjust and I was so proud of myself. Like it, of course not.....but I have resigned myself to the fact that this is my new "Bed Buddy" and I cannot leave him. It was easier to get a divorce than to leave my new Bed Budy.
Thanks Chris for your support and encouragement and the reminder that we have to overcome this and stick with it no matter what.
Judy
You were not harsh. You were loud and clear. You hit the nail right on the head. Everything you said is soooo true and it applies to everything in life.
I needed to read that as I am having both knees replaced on April 11th and I have been brave but as the time gets closer, I am getting a little ansey about the whole long, slow process that is involved once the operation is over.
I think back to when I first was put on CPAP (July 2004) and how I hated it and how I thought I was suffocating me and how I could not keep the Activa on my face and would tear it off.........the whole ball of wax. But I realized how bad this disorder is and I was so determined that it would not beat me and that I would beat it. It took me 6 weeks to finally adjust and I was so proud of myself. Like it, of course not.....but I have resigned myself to the fact that this is my new "Bed Buddy" and I cannot leave him. It was easier to get a divorce than to leave my new Bed Budy.
Thanks Chris for your support and encouragement and the reminder that we have to overcome this and stick with it no matter what.
Judy
Re: looking for others using mirage swift nasal or other nas
Try the Swift, it is fairly non-intrusive. It gives out little squeakers of leaks, esp. when side sleeping, but Chrisp is right you have to keep tweaking, searching, unfortunately and perhaps spending $ on products to find the one that best works for you. I had a nasal mask on at my titr. study, lasted about 5 mins. I cannot abide anything that intrusive on my face. I do not scuba dive, jump out of planes, and never plan to, but there are some of us who absolutely cannot stand that much CRAP on one's face. So I tried the swift that night, and that is what I had my DME order for me. I bought a back up set up, as I wanted security of knowing, I had something else to use or fall back on.
As for the Breeze which is touted as a great great nasal pillow set up, I agree, for side sleeping may be a better ''fit'' but the hard piece ove the top of my head was worse than I thought, so again, FOR ME, in my OPINION, (AM NOT A DR) I'd try the swift.
Hang in there, DO NOT GIVE UP, ok?
It's all a learning curve, and for many of us we just endure, keep trying, and my thoughts before I drift off are that maybe perhaps I'll be given a new day tomorrow with improved health, albeit slower than some on this board, to carry on.
Just my opinions, hope they are somewhat helpful.
Good Luck!
Gz
As for the Breeze which is touted as a great great nasal pillow set up, I agree, for side sleeping may be a better ''fit'' but the hard piece ove the top of my head was worse than I thought, so again, FOR ME, in my OPINION, (AM NOT A DR) I'd try the swift.
Hang in there, DO NOT GIVE UP, ok?
It's all a learning curve, and for many of us we just endure, keep trying, and my thoughts before I drift off are that maybe perhaps I'll be given a new day tomorrow with improved health, albeit slower than some on this board, to carry on.
Just my opinions, hope they are somewhat helpful.
Good Luck!
Gz
humalien wrote:I still can't get used to a nose mask for the whole night. TryOnly 2 hours or so. I'm hoping the lighter nasal system and less obtrusive setup will give me some peace. Will a setting of 10cm, my top setting work with this type of system? Looking for comments on seeing if nasal worked when the larger stuff just couldn't be tolerated.
Rick.
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Hi humalien,
For most people, nasal pillows interfaces seal better even at high pressures than do most traditional nasal masks (cover just the nose.) I've experimentally run my top pressure up to 19, just out of curiosity to see if the Breeze's nasal pillows would stay sealed ok up there. They maintained their seal fine at 19, even when I tried some of my usual toss n' turn sleeping positions for a few minutes.
The only traditional style of nasal mask (covers the entire nose) that seals as well as the nasal pillows interfaces, imho, is the Activa by ResMed. The Activa is an engineering miracle for people who prefer a nasal mask. It can take high pressures without blowing out the sides. The Activa works best with the straps worn almost floppy loose.
The nasal pillows interfaces I like best are, in this order:
Aura by Aeiomed (I add side straps to it.)
Breeze by Puritan Bennett (I add side straps to it.)
Swift by ResMed (Too noisy for me, but a favorite mask of many.)
A very good full face mask (covers nose and mouth) to have in the arsenal is the ResMed Ultra Mirage FF. Excellent for nights when you have a cold or so much congestion that you just can't breathe through your nose and absolutely need to breathe through your mouth. It's also a good mask to use if you leak treatment air out your mouth, or have to breathe through your mouth all the time.
I'm not a doctor or anything in the health care field. These are just my favorites. Everyone's mask mileage varies, so they might not suit someone else at all.
For most people, nasal pillows interfaces seal better even at high pressures than do most traditional nasal masks (cover just the nose.) I've experimentally run my top pressure up to 19, just out of curiosity to see if the Breeze's nasal pillows would stay sealed ok up there. They maintained their seal fine at 19, even when I tried some of my usual toss n' turn sleeping positions for a few minutes.
The only traditional style of nasal mask (covers the entire nose) that seals as well as the nasal pillows interfaces, imho, is the Activa by ResMed. The Activa is an engineering miracle for people who prefer a nasal mask. It can take high pressures without blowing out the sides. The Activa works best with the straps worn almost floppy loose.
The nasal pillows interfaces I like best are, in this order:
Aura by Aeiomed (I add side straps to it.)
Breeze by Puritan Bennett (I add side straps to it.)
Swift by ResMed (Too noisy for me, but a favorite mask of many.)
A very good full face mask (covers nose and mouth) to have in the arsenal is the ResMed Ultra Mirage FF. Excellent for nights when you have a cold or so much congestion that you just can't breathe through your nose and absolutely need to breathe through your mouth. It's also a good mask to use if you leak treatment air out your mouth, or have to breathe through your mouth all the time.
I'm not a doctor or anything in the health care field. These are just my favorites. Everyone's mask mileage varies, so they might not suit someone else at all.
I am just begining to use a nasal mask. It is a FlexiFit HC407A nasal mask. It is much better for me than the pillow nasal mask. The nasal mask is staying in place much better. I tried the pillow nasal mask and it would not stay in place for me. I would move or turn over and it would move to the side out of my nose evey time. I even tightened the straps until the thing was pushed into my nose. That did not help either.
My Doc tried the FlexiFit on me in his office and it felt better so he ordered me one.
My Doc tried the FlexiFit on me in his office and it felt better so he ordered me one.
My main problem with the Swift, and aside from this I like it, is the high leak I get when I use it. Last night, using a Resmed Spirit, I had a leak of 0.52 and anything over 0.40 can result in the machine not performing properly. How do you successful users keep it positioned properly in the nares? I move around a lot from side to side and I keep dislodging it.
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Paul B,
In order to get the Swift mask to stay in place, I ordered a Respironics soft chin strap (white - P/N 302175). I put it on, stretched it out, and fastened it temporarily with plastic vegetable bag ties to mark it on both sides. My husband then punched about a 3/32 inch hole through the straps of the chin strap and the Swift interface ( on the strap that goes around the back of the head about 1 ½ inches from the centerline of the juncture of the two head straps) on both sides with a punch tool. He put plastic vegetable bag ties (ones similar to what you get in the grocery store) through the holes to secure it). This also keeps the strap at the back of the Swift mask from riding up.
You are allowed a chin strap every 6 months under Medicare.
In order to get the Swift mask to stay in place, I ordered a Respironics soft chin strap (white - P/N 302175). I put it on, stretched it out, and fastened it temporarily with plastic vegetable bag ties to mark it on both sides. My husband then punched about a 3/32 inch hole through the straps of the chin strap and the Swift interface ( on the strap that goes around the back of the head about 1 ½ inches from the centerline of the juncture of the two head straps) on both sides with a punch tool. He put plastic vegetable bag ties (ones similar to what you get in the grocery store) through the holes to secure it). This also keeps the strap at the back of the Swift mask from riding up.
You are allowed a chin strap every 6 months under Medicare.
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Try the Aeiomed aura. It works much better for side sleeping.Paul B wrote:How do you successful users keep it positioned properly in the nares?
Sincerely,
wading thru the muck of the sleep study/DME/Insurance money pit!
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looking for others using mirage swift nasal
I am a mouth breather and the only way I can use a regular mask in that I have to use a breath right metal nose strip for them to work. But If I use the nose type mask That applies pressure to the in side of my nose I do find. It does the same as the breath right strip by applying pressure to the inside if my nose. I tried the Breeze and it works if you do not mind getting awake 20 times per night to adjust it. I tried the Swift and it is VERY good. I used it at a setting of 12 and did Ok. Since then I have received my Auto pap and it works even better. The only down side is that is does blow air quite a bit and it does shift on my head more then I would like. But I also bought a Respironics Chin Strap Part Number: 1012911. It not only keeps my mouth shut but also keep the Swift straps in position. Also there is no discomfort in the morning like a sore nose like I had with the Breeze. Hope this information helps
Gil
Gil