Bruxism and sleep apneia

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Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Tue May 16, 2017 6:29 pm

Hi

I grind my teeth and clench my teeth and now newly diagnosed with sleep apnea . Does anyone else suffer from this and if yes how long does it take for it to disappear I am currently using cpap machine with a night guard that I was given prior to my sleep apnea diagnosis. I just started using my machine one week ago

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by terry123 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:35 pm

For me, it has never gone away, however I do think there are times that I do not. I still wear a teeth protector at night. I have used cpap for at least 15 to 20 years.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Wed May 17, 2017 5:04 am

Hi my doctor said that sometimes sleep apneia is related to grinding for somebody people

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Julie » Wed May 17, 2017 5:15 am

It is and others will come with more info... the other poster here unfortunately is dedicated to ignorant posts so I suggest you ignore them.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Pap-Daddy » Wed May 17, 2017 5:27 am

Novello1234 wrote:Hi

I grind my teeth and clench my teeth and now newly diagnosed with sleep apnea . Does anyone else suffer from this and if yes how long does it take for it to disappear I am currently using cpap machine with a night guard that I was given prior to my sleep apnea diagnosis. I just started using my machine one week ago
The best advice is to always wear the night guard when you sleep, just as you should your cpap whenever you sleep, even naps.

For readers who don't have dental insurance a guard runs about $250 (from a dentist) tho you can buy a decent boil n bite guard on Amazon for about $20 which is well worth it, just read the reviews to get something that people are happy with.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Wed May 17, 2017 3:52 pm

Thank you and how long does it take for grinding to disappear my apnea is much lower now since I am using cpap so how long does it take I thought it would stop right away I had a bad night I think with grinding last night and I had my cpap on. All night I used new mask on last night I am on cpap one week only and also my sleep is still poorly

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by robysue » Thu May 18, 2017 6:45 pm

Novello1234 wrote:Thank you and how long does it take for grinding to disappear my apnea is much lower now since I am using cpap so how long does it take I thought it would stop right away I had a bad night I think with grinding last night and I had my cpap on. All night I used new mask on last night I am on cpap one week only and also my sleep is still poorly
The grinding may or may not get any better.

In my case, my TMJ problems, including teeth grinding got substantially worse during the first 8-9 months of PAPing. And my primary care dentist wound up referring me to a TMJ specialist after I chewed through a guard that was less than a year old and substantially damaged the replacement guard in less than 2 months. The TMJ specialist designed a treatment program designed to first heal my TMJs and then keep the grinding under control. It took several weeks of a "no chew" diet combined with 24/7 wearing of a guard to allow my TMJs to actually heal from the years of damage. It took several more months to "wean" me to wearing the guard only at night, and along the way I chewed through another guard or two. But with a lot of help from the TMJ specialist, we finally got it all sorted out.

Please note: My TMJ specialist describes me as "an interesting patient" because of how long it took him to figure out how to craft a custom night guard that did not trigger additional grinding. But once he got it figured out and made me a guard that doesn't trigger the additional grinding, the relief from the TMJ problems was almost immediate.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Fri May 19, 2017 1:46 pm

Thank you. I actually also have psin in the teeth and sore gums

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Kohkie » Fri May 19, 2017 3:52 pm

I got my mouth guard long before I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea. I've been on CPAP for 5.5 years and still wear my mouth guard nightly. I wasn't even aware they could be related. In my case going on CPAP therapy has not helped the teeth grinding at all.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:27 am

I don't know but was told could be related and also read some articles. My teeth grinding and clenching new past 6 months I wore a guard in dec but my teeth and gums being sore continued so I was asked to do sleep study I also was not sleeping well.

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Sat May 20, 2017 1:01 pm

Has anyone heard of that re above that teeth grinding clenching is related to sleep apneia

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by CowFish » Sat May 20, 2017 2:44 pm

xxyzx wrote:i dont think there is a direct connection
But there is.


Why You Grind Your Teeth at Night
During the night, the brain cycles through lighter and deeper stages of sleep.

As the brain approaches deep sleep, all the muscles in the body have to fully let go and relax. This easily causes trouble for the airway — the jaw is heavy and easily blocks the airway and the tongue, when fully relaxed, expands to almost twice its size to block the airway as well.

Researchers studied brain scans of people with partial blockage in their airways while they slept and what they noticed is that it was grinding (also called bruxism) that reopened the airway and got the study participants breathing again.

As soon as they were given something to keep their airway open all night long — like a CPAP machine or a dental appliance that held the jaw in place so the tongue and jaw don’t block the airway — their grinding stopped and so did the “apneic” events, or the loss of breathing during sleep.



Read more at Ask the Dentist: http://askthedentist.com/why-you-grind-your-teeth/
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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Sat May 20, 2017 9:18 pm

Thank you for your post. I am now wondering if I should wear my mouth guard or will that make it worse. I will ask the dentist who made it last night I decided not to wear it but I midfielders of might I put it on towards early mirning

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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by Novello1234 » Sun May 21, 2017 10:19 am

I slept a bit better last night with my mask . I am getting used to it but this night guard is driving me crazy Last night I decided to wear it to see what happens . Keep in mind that I have been wearing the night guard since dec. In April my tooth pain and gum soreness started to get worse. Last night I woke up in the middle of the night and took it off then few hours later I put it back on. Today not having a good day I thought I was getting somewhat better during the past 2 weeks since I have been using the cpap machine.

Does anyone have sleep apneia plus grinding or clenching ? If yes what have you done to reduce the grinding Does the cpap help and do u use night guard.
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Re: Bruxism and sleep apneia

Post by palerider » Sun May 21, 2017 11:16 am

Novello1234 wrote:I dkedo a bit better last night with my mask getting used to it but this night guard is driving me crazy last night I decided to wear it to see what happens keep i mind that I have been wearing the night guard since dec. in April my tooth pain and gum soreness started to get worse. Last night I woke up in the middle of the night and took it if then few hours later put it back on. Today not having a good day I thought I was getting somewhat better during the past 2 weeks since I have been using the cpap machine. Dies anyone have sleep apneia plus grinding or clenching in this group if yes what have u done to reduce the grinding diesd the cpap help and do u use night guard. My teeth are ok I am going to let my dentist know about the guard. Maybe I should have worn it Friday night
Are you posting while drunk, or do you just not bother to go back and look to see if what you're about to post makes any sense at all?

You really should review, and correct, before hitting submit.

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