Rainout with Heated Hose?

Lee Lee · Post by **Lee Lee** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:41 pm

OK, I broke down and bought the Aussie Heated Hose. I use it as the directions dictate. I don't have anywhere near the rainout problem I had before the hose, BUT...early in the morning, I feel the old familiar trickle. And sure enough, there's water in my mask.
The hose doesn't feel warm to the touch either, except when I first turn it on. Feels warm for awhile, then goes cold. The directions said it might not feel warm to the touch, though.
Now to be fair, it is cold as heck in that bedroom, and I have a little fan running beside my bed as well. ( I get really hot at night..what can I say, that's a whole other issue.)
I wonder if it's just too much Arctic air for the hose?

Snoozin' Bluezzz · Post by **Snoozin' Bluezzz** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:49 pm

I get the same thing. Sometimes I wonder if the hose is faulty but I haven't posted my concerns here or e-mailed Sleepzone. I'll be interested in what comes back.

Perhaps ambient temperature sort of equalizes the external temperature of the hose and the A/C overwhelms it. I do get a constant airstream from the A/C and an air cleaner. I even get moisture in the Swift, something I don't get in the winter. It is not enough to create problems though.

David

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:39 pm

I think I recall snork1 writing that he uses two hose covers with the heated hose. Don't know if that's the case year round.

If the bedroom is very cold, you may also need to use a hose cover on any exposed connector hose to the mask, and a mask cover as well.

Snoozing Gonzo · Post by **Snoozing Gonzo** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:44 pm

I've noticed that my heated hose isn't as warm to the tough as it was for the first several weeks. Along with that I have a noticible but managable increase in condensation as long as I stay away from the upper heat settings. The transformer is also cooler to the touch than it was at one time. Nights here are in the 45-50 degree range and my window is always open so that may be part of the problem. I plan on testing the resistance on the hose's plug and emailing Sleepzone for suggestions or reassurance.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:44 pm

That's why I joined this board! I learn something new everyday. I had no idea there was such a thing as a mask cover.
And oh yeah, it's cold in there. Hubby and the dog's teeth are chattering, and I'm kicking off the covers.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:52 pm

I'm convinced the AC can overwhelm the Heated Hose. The resistance by the way is 13 Ohm across the leads of the plug. The transformer they supplied failed within two weeks, to be fair that was in the beginning of the spring thunderboomers and that may have got it.

TerryB

Lee Lee · Post by **Lee Lee** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:28 pm

Snoozin Gonzo, can you let me know what you find out? I'm thinking it has something to do with the pins they talk about needing adjusting. I'm just not very technical. But y hose worked well at first, too.
I guess I should check the transformer.
(whine) I really wish things would just work without having to do all the tinkering and puttering.

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:35 pm

LeeLee:

Have you considered getting the Fisher Paykel HC150 heated humidifier, which has ambient temperature tracking?

I'll made a deal with you: If you DON'T solve the problem with the heated hose you have, I'll send you one of my "ComfortSleeve" hose covers to try. If it works for you and you want to keep it, let me know, & you may purchase it; otherwise, just send it back. Other than that & the HC150, I have no other ideas. PM me if interested.

I too sleep best in a cold room; windows open in winter.

Kathleen

Linda3032 · Post by **Linda3032** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:37 pm

Lee Lee, to test to see if your heated hose is heating, put part of it folded into a pillow (during the daytime obviously). I keep part of mine routed under an extra pillow on my bed, and it gets warm.

I'm the "prime example" of the heated hose not stopping rainout. I use the standard heated hose cover, plus two more covers. And I get a few droplets of rainout.

LOL. The other night, I bumped my humidifier up to 2, just to see if I could get away with it. NOPE. ....

It's the cool room temperature.

That all being said, I just ordered a backup heated hose. Heavens, I would drown without it. .........

Snoozing Gonzo · Post by **Snoozing Gonzo** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:46 am

TerryB, Thanks for the resistance number. I was going to measure last night but spaced it out.

--- You would think that either the transformer unit would work or not. I switched to another transformer (the Radio Shack 1776 + M plug) that I had around for another use and I have bent the pin a bit to assure good contact in the M plug. I got the same warm but not as warm result. Its weird that the heat just decreased. Its plugged into a power strip, maybe I'll try a different strip or direct into the wall if the resistance is OK on the hose.

Chris

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Lee Lee · Post by **Lee Lee** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:57 am

Offerocker. I would love to try the hose cover, but I really thought I was done wiht covers!
I was also thinking it's the transformer or the power strip. I'm going to change both tonight. And mess around with the pin.

Jstevens75 · Post by **Jstevens75** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:05 pm

If you keep it under the pillow it will get super hot. I actually had mine heat up my half of the bed one night. I have to keep it above the pillow in order not to get too hot.

Jack

roster · Post by **roster** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:42 pm

Anonymous wrote:That's why I joined this board! I learn something new everyday. I had no idea there was such a thing as a mask cover.
And oh yeah, it's cold in there. Hubby and the dog's teeth are chattering, and I'm kicking off the covers.

That brings back memories of me before I was diagnosed and started cpap therapy. I would wake up sweating like a pig, go get a cold glass of water and sit out on my brick patio in my briefs and tee for half an hour to cool down. It was often 30 degrees F on the patio.

I reported this several times to my doctors and they never once suggested osa. It took me years to diagnose myself and get in a sleep lab for confirmation.

Lee Lee · Post by **Lee Lee** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:33 pm

Just a footnote: I put the hose behind the pillow, as suggested. Guess what? The sucker's working like a champ. It's the freezing cold room that's the culprit. Apologies to the Sleep Zone folks for doubting you.
Gonna try the hose cover.
Thanks, all.

Jstevens75 · Post by **Jstevens75** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:47 am

I have an 18 inch connector hose to take some of the weight off the mask end, and to add some slack. Last night I got some pretty bad rainout. Anyone know where I can get an 18 inch hose cover?

Thanks!

Jack

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