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Post by jskinner » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:44 pm

There seems be two Autos now in the M-Series line. The C-Flex one and a new A-Flex one. Does anyone have any info on what the new A-Flex algorithm does differently?

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Post by JeffH » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:21 pm

From their web site...

REMstar Auto M Series with A-FLEX™:
A PROVEN PERFORMER GETS EVEN BETTER.

A-Flex is delivered by our clinically proven auto algorithm that maintains effective therapy at minimal pressures - making this combination even better for patients. The REMstar Auto M Series with A-Flex represents an amazing new chapter in pressure therapy. Not only does it make each breath more comfortable at inhalation and exhalation, the REMstar Auto also adjusts overall therapy to accommodate the patient's therapy needs due to changes in lifestyle or progression of disease state.

A-Flex is a comfort feature built on top of the REMstar Auto algorithm. If breathing events occur, the auto algorithm raises the A-Flex pressure profile to eliminate those events, while simultaneously making sure that pressure never rises to a level that's unnecessarily, and uncomfortably, high.

The REMstar Auto M Series with A-Flex is part of the Respironics System One™ Standard - a new approach that delivers the ultimate sleep therapy experience.
REMstar Auto M Series with A-Flex

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Post by blowfish » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:25 pm

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Post by JeffH » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:33 pm

[quote="mth712"]It was my understanding that CFLEX is CPAP FLEXIBLE and AFLEX is AUTO FLEXIBLE . CFLEX AND AFLEX = SAME THING.


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Post by Snoredog » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:34 pm

they changed the "mode" on the M series.

On the older Autos, the mode (options) were:

CPAP, CFLE, AUTO, AFLE, where CFLE was CPAP w/CFLEX and AFLE was AUTO w/CFLEX. AUTO by itself was just conventional AUTO mode.

On the M series, there is just:

CPAP and AUTO

CFLEX is now a seperate parameter.

AFLEX??? Respironics says nothing about it on the website that I could find. I wonder if they are not meaning the mode "AFLE" which is Autopap w/Cflex enabled.

Geeze the net is constipated today!, I DID find it, but I don't think it is anything "new" persay.

BiFlex was the relief offered for the Bipap
CFlex was the relief offered for the CPAP
AFlex is the the relief offered for the "AUTO" so it goes in concert with the type of mode/machine being used.


Here's the link to A-Flex, wonder if it is really new or just a marketing thing:
http://systemone.respironics.com/aflex.asp

The animation appears the same as it was for Cflex but I'm only getting about half of the images (their server sucks).

Looks like it has some Pressure Support like the Bipap at 2cm. I wasn't aware of the Auto offering a bilevel like pressure differential. Now they appear to be using 6cm threshold (was 8cm on pre A-Flex machines). This will be interesting to read.

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Post by Handgunner45 » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:43 pm

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Post by JeffH » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:46 pm

Handgunner45 wrote:Check it out here!!!!

http://remstarautomseries.respironics.com/
Thanks Handgunner45. I was about the post that.


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Post by Snoredog » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:53 pm

is that website a slug for you guys also? maybe I need to go kick my switch router.
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Post by JeffH » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:00 pm

Snoredog wrote:is that website a slug for you guys also? maybe I need to go kick my switch router.
It isn't you...they are slow loading today.

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Post by blowfish » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:02 pm

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Need more clarification

Post by Sammy_J » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:03 pm

It's seems to be a bit more comfortable when inhaling and exhaling compared to the AFLEX mode in older models. It would be interesting to see if they changed the algorithm in this one compared to, say, the AFlex machines.

It goes on to say "while simultaneously making sure that pressure never rises to a level that's unnecessarily, and uncomfortably, high. "

What does that exactly mean [according to respironics].

We need more info and comparisons. What supposedly makes it better than previous A AFLEX machine?

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Post by rested gal » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:02 pm

According to this page on Respironics' site that mth712 linked:

http://systemone.respironics.com/aflex.asp


A-Flex will work the same as C-Flex does -- when a person exhales:
"During exhalation, A-Flex provides variable expiratory pressure relief that is the same as our clinically proven C-Flex™ technology."

As best I can tell, the new twist to "A-Flex" is that it appears A-Flex will also give some pressure relief during inhalation. C-Flex does not do anything at all during inhalation...A-Flex will:

"During inhalation, A-Flex also provides inspiratory comfort that varies with the patient's pressure level."
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Post by blarg » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:09 pm

For the graphically inclined:

A-Flex:
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C-Flex:
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Looks like they're bumping the pressure up at the end of the inhale to give more of a BiPAP effect on the exhale. Looks promising.

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Post by RosemaryB » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:57 pm

Here's what I don't understand: Why is Respironics making such sophisticated changes to improve their products and at the same time getting so cozy with the DME's? In other words, they are considering making their software harder to get for the xPAP user?

Don't they know that the DME's are loathe to sell these sophisticated machines to users but would, whenever possible, provide the user with the cheapest possible machine, and certainly not an AutoPAP? Doesn't Respironics realize that the same people who are most closely involved with their own treatment are exactly the ones who will appreciate machines like this one and will insist on the better machines from the DME's. This is their target market, but they may make it less desirable for those in their target market.

There's something broken with this system. I don't quite understand what the logic is here.

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