NightWatch23 wrote:Hello drfaust. I'm sorry I have nothing helpful to offer, I just wanted to say thanks for this thread. Sometimes it helps a little just to know there are others who understand what we're going through. My stats are different than yours, but I've also been laughed at by doctors, been mildly assaulted nightly by a machine that's not helping, still feel terrible, and often think of giving up. I have kids, so it's not an option. Along with diet and exercise, sleep is a pillar of health, but it's hard to know what it means until it's taken from you.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one!
Mostly what you read on here is success stories -- or worst case, people who took a long time but are now feeling the benefits. And when people like us ask for help, mostly what we get are "stick with it!" or "you're paying off your sleep debt! You'll feel great in no time!" But there are lots of us who don't easily fit into a checkbox category and for whom the typical treatment doesn't work.
The more I read about people with low arousal thresholds the more convinced that that is at least partly what's going on with me. My apnea is not severe. I only had one full apnea on my PSG study. But my sleep is completely screwed up. My psychiatrist and therapist both say that I need to talk to the sleep physician about my sleep issues because I won't be able to get a handle on my anxiety and depression until I am sleeping at night; the horrible sleep neurologist I saw last fall told me that my sleep is just fine (because the numbers that my machine gives say I don't have apneas), but that I need to "man up" and stop complaining.
My sense is that most sleep physicians want to put you in the "apnea" category, prescribe you a CPAP and move on -- it's like they're CPAP salespeople with extremely advanced degrees and who earn sh!tloads of money. But obviously, CPAP isn't cutting it for some of us. And the mouth splint made by the sleep dentist doesn't work either -- I wake up constantly and can't get continuous sleep.
I asked about the abnormal proportion of N2 sleep and lack of REM on my PSG and both sleep neurologists I've seen have said "Oh, don't worry about that, it's fine." But clearly I'm waking up constantly and never actually getting restorative sleep.
I'm sick of getting the brush off. It's good to hear I'm not alone, though