"2. Patients changing their own pressures
This area is another key element in extending care back into the patient’s domain. I believe the vast majority of patients must be trained to adjust their own pressure settings, if for no other reason than so many sleep doctors are stuck in the conventional wisdom that pressure settings are a static process. In reality, pressure settings should be viewed dynamically. I have noticed this issue first-hand in my own use of ASV and ABPAP over the years. There are times where I am literally adjusting settings daily, weekly or monthly to accommodate some change I am noticing in outcomes. There is no reason why patients could not be instructed in this approach to care, and given the resistance to testing in the sleep lab by so many sleep doctors and insurers, this self-care model can also work very well to further enhance the relationships between patients and their DME personnel. The model of health care for the future is clearly heading toward patient-centric and away from doctor or medical system centric. I appreciate that some patients cannot learn to approach their care in this manner, but arguably anywhere from 30 to 60% of PAP users could learn this approach, and it’s just common sense that healthcare systems should be implemented to encourage patients to understand how to gather subjective data about themselves to then make informed decisions about changing the objective pressure settings on their machines." -- http://doctorstevenpark.com/dr-barry-kr ... pap-part-5
'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Perhaps this has been posted before, but I personally appreciated reading these statements made by Dr. K. in a review of a book by Dr. P.:
-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
I should probably get better at adjusting my own pressures instead of relying on my auto-pap to do it for me. Luckily, my numbers aren't too bad and my Pulminologist/Sleep Doc is pretty good about letting me change things as needed without prior approval.
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Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Drs. K. and P. mostly specialize in helping people who are having trouble with their OSA treatments. They aren't trying to make people with successful treatment feel guilty for not being more involved. But yeah, this place is often about encouraging users to be educated enough to make informed decisions about their own PAP therapy. And such statements by respected docs can come in handy for explaining to a doc one's interest in self-tweaking pressures to optimize therapy.dbreweur wrote:I should probably get better at adjusting my own pressures instead of relying on my auto-pap to do it for me. Luckily, my numbers aren't too bad and my Pulminologist/Sleep Doc is pretty good about letting me change things as needed without prior approval.
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-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Whenever I decide to try a new mask it seems that I also need to change my pressures a little, or adjust something. I'm trying to get comfortable with the Swift FX with the Bella Loops and found that last night I was much more comfortable with lower pressures. I can't imagine having to wait for a doctor appointment in order to do this. Along with the thinking that the DME police will put you in jail, I think that new people are afraid of their machines (anyway, I was at one time), so think they are stuck using whatever pressures the doctor decided was 'right' for them.
Interesting and on topic thread, thanks!
Interesting and on topic thread, thanks!
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Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
You are welcome.Lucyhere wrote:Interesting and on topic thread, thanks!
Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Thanks for the post and the humor.jnk... wrote:You are welcome.Lucyhere wrote:Interesting and on topic thread, thanks!
Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
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Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Actually, adjusting your own pressures includes setting the right minimum so that your autopap can best do it's job for you.dbreweur wrote:I should probably get better at adjusting my own pressures instead of relying on my auto-pap to do it for me. Luckily, my numbers aren't too bad and my Pulminologist/Sleep Doc is pretty good about letting me change things as needed without prior approval.
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
You're so enigmatic...jnk... wrote:Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Well, I certainly hope you aren't trying to sew some doubt regarding the subtleties of my insidious hidden agenda.palerider wrote:You're so enigmatic...jnk... wrote:Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Feel better soon, jnk! I had no idea you were enigmatic.jnk... wrote:Well, I certainly hope you aren't trying to sew some doubt regarding the subtleties of my insidious hidden agenda.palerider wrote:You're so enigmatic...jnk... wrote:Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
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Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
I don't think there's really any question that I'm almost as enigmatic as a mixed hypopnea.
-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
I'd NEVER... besides, I'm not even sure where my needles and thread are!jnk... wrote:Well, I certainly hope you aren't trying to sew some doubt regarding the subtleties of my insidious hidden agenda.palerider wrote:You're so enigmatic...jnk... wrote:Besides, I have to post something on topic once in awhile just to keep people guessing!
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Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
You know, sometimes you can be a real sow-and-sow. But hey, you reap what you so.palerider wrote:I'd NEVER... I'm not even sure where my needles and thread are!
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-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
jnk... wrote:I don't think there's really any question that I'm almost as enigmatic as a mixed hypopnea.
And you play the guitar too... bet that adds to it.
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Re: 'Majority must be trained to adjust own pressures' -- Dr. K.
Not since I moved off the farmjnk... wrote:You know, sometimes you can be a real sow-and-sow. But hey, you reap what you so.palerider wrote:I'd NEVER... I'm not even sure where my needles and thread are!
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.