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Post by inacpapfog » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:34 pm

I was just reading several posts about mouth taping. Seems like, for some people, certain tapes leave residual adhesive the next morning. Some tapes even seem to cause skin reactions. I've been taping every night for over a year now and, luckily, I have never had either of these problems!
I've used the same brand of tape (Durapore/ 2") and rested gal's hint about the tab ends. I'm able to coat my lips with any type of moisturizer and still get a great seal with just one strip of this 2' wide tape. (I have even used the same strip the second night and it still holds fine!)
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Post by Newsgrouper » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:53 pm

I taped my mouth every night with great success for 4-5 months. Then one night I put the tape on as usual and after a few minutes I could no longer stand it. I have not taped since that night and am back to full face masks. I don't sleep nearly as well as when I taped. How do things like this happen?

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Post by Goofproof » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:11 pm

Newsgrouper wrote:I taped my mouth every night with great success for 4-5 months. Then one night I put the tape on as usual and after a few minutes I could no longer stand it. I have not taped since that night and am back to full face masks. I don't sleep nearly as well as when I taped. How do things like this happen?
When taped you may run into congestion problems, where if you used a FF Mask you could open your mouth and continue to breath easier. I have to use a FF Mask for that reason.
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Post by DSM-Guest » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:41 pm

As someone who went thru the taping period & gave up, I was never able to find a decent tape that didn't eventually tear my lips. In the end I just went F/F mask & that has been for many months now.

But recently (past 5 nights I have been using a Breeze nasal pillows mask and in the 5 nights am only aware on 1 probable incident of opening my mouth. It does seem that we adjust over time.

As I have also said, it may be helped quite a bit by having also gone BiLevel & using a big spread of pressures from IPAP 15 (inhale) to EPAP 8 (exhale). But I kind of feel that I could go a night even on CPAP of 15 & get by now. I may actually try it soon just to answer the question for myself.

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Post by Amigo » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:42 pm

I think I may try inacpapfog's Durapore 2" tape as I seem to have an intolerance to the J & J Waterproof tape. It itches like crazy, and I've had to resort to using 3 or 4 strips as 2 strips of 1" just doesn't cut it. I now look like a mummy...lol. Inevitably though, sometime during the night I need to cough or clear my throat, and pulling aside 4 strips of tape is really painful and very annoying.

I've abandoned the chin strap as it simply no longer works for me, so I'm really desperate to find a solution.

It's really funny in a way as I'm a rather quiet and reserved fellow during the day, but at night I just can't seem to keep my mouth shut.

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Post by Guest » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:40 pm

Amigo, give the Durapore a try! It really works great for me! (I tried the J&J tape, but it left me "itchy" the next morning. And, I had to scrub adhesive patches off my face after removing the tape.)Good luck. Let us know how it works for you!

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:29 pm

Two tips:

One, prior to taping with any medium, turn your lips inward, like blotting lipstick on a tissue, before you tape. It doesn't have to be drastically, but just enough to turn them in a bit. Helps to seal them better and eliminate the pain of ripping any adhesive you use off the soft skin of your lips in the AM.

Two, try Tegaderm patches if you have tried everything else. They work great and don't hurt very much to remove. If you buy the large ones, you can get two out of them which makes them more cost-efficient since they are a bit expensive. But they work so, IMHO, they're worth it.

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Post by Amigo » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:24 pm

Thanks, Sleepless, but I always turned my lips in before applying the tape...I followed Rested Gals instructions to the letter. The pain in removing comes from the skin around my mouth, not my lips, and the itching was driving me nuts.

I'll keep the Tegaderm in mind if the Durapore doesn't work.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:33 pm

Amigo wrote:Thanks, Sleepless, but I always turned my lips in before applying the tape...I followed Rested Gals instructions to the letter. The pain in removing comes from the skin around my mouth, not my lips, and the itching was driving me nuts.

I'll keep the Tegaderm in mind if the Durapore doesn't work.
Amigo,

Maybe it has something to do with that's an area where you shave and it irritates easier.

I didn't know RG had provided instructions regarding the turning in of the lips, but she was definitely the one who turned me onto Tegaderm patches. One of the best suggestions when it came to mouth taping. I hadn't had any luck with anything else before that.

Good luck. Hope you find something that works.
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Post by ozij » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:45 am

And do try the Micorpore too, Amigo.

It's hypoallergenic - and works for most people who are allergic to adhesive - though Rested Gal (who is one of a kind anyway) isn't one of them...

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Post by WillSucceed » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:48 am

I was using Tegaderm patches with good success but found that when I switched to a nasal pillows system (Breeze) I did not seem to have the same mouth-opening problems that I had before. I suspect that having the air injected straight into my nose, such that I was not gasping for air, made the difference. This was around a year ago and I happily sent all my Tegaderm patches to Rested Gal.

Have you considered trying a nasal pillow system?

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Post by Amigo » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:37 pm

Durapore, Tegaderm, Micropore...thanks all for the many options. Surely one of them will work (I hope).

And, by the way WillSucceed, I've been using nasal pillows and a chin strap from the beginning (Oct., 2003), but the chin strap just isn't keeping my yap shut anymore despite all the mind games and tongue positions I've tried.


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Post by Amigo » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:09 am

Just a quick update on my taping quest.

I was unable to find the Durapore in the 2" size (although my medical supplier can order it), so I tried the Micropore last night using 2 strips of 2" tape.

It worked beautifully! No itching whatsoever, and I had one of my most restful night's sleep in sometime. It just proves to me that despite the chin strap my mouth was flapping open during the night, and severely mitigating the benefits of the air pressure.

Thanks again to all for your recommendations...and I still have two more choices to try if, for some reason, the Micropore doesn't continue to perform so well.