It takes about 5 years for the smart people that mzke these findings to prove each other idiots and reverse tge findings 180 degrees. Those that do can do, those that can't teach. Those that can't do either, study it and write papers, about it. JimJustin Case wrote:Just a thought. Much information has been available on how to disinfect and clean your xPAP hoses, masks, humidifiers. Yet, I have never found any literature on how to actually disinfect the xPAP itself. In my little brain, me things it stands to reason that if you have staph bacteria that it will be transferred to your xPAP. That's always been my fear of considering a used xPAP.
How credible is this newer research?palerider wrote: newer research has proven that it's not, even in healthy individuals with no UTI problems
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That, -2. While it is perfectly in context (DME sells crap you don't need, that thing sells crap you don't need), the key point is "selling crap you don't need".JustTia wrote:This, +1. The reference to what she sells was perfectly in context and not to be considered "spam" in the least.chunkyfrog wrote:The reference was in context, and somewhat related; if the Goodmans don't object, I don't either.Sludge wrote:Please do not use cpaptalk.com to advertise your products.ShelaghDB wrote: . . . toothbrushes. . . sales.
If that thing is vying for the role of the Forum Arbiter, then it shouldn't be "selling crap you don't need".
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1) Referring to a human being, who clearly is female, as "that thing" shows a small mind.Sludge wrote:That, -2. While it is perfectly in context (DME sells crap you don't need, that thing sells crap you don't need), the key point is "selling crap you don't need".JustTia wrote:This, +1. The reference to what she sells was perfectly in context and not to be considered "spam" in the least.chunkyfrog wrote:The reference was in context, and somewhat related; if the Goodmans don't object, I don't either.Sludge wrote:Please do not use cpaptalk.com to advertise your products.ShelaghDB wrote: . . . toothbrushes. . . sales.
If that thing is vying for the role of the Forum Arbiter, then it shouldn't be "selling crap you don't need".
2) While I agree on the forum arbiter point (forum "mom" being more accurate in my opinion), I disagree that she was selling anything.
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Having worked in biotech research for years it's amazing to me that no one has mentioned that soaking in a solution of a capful of bleach in a gallon of water will sterilize most non-porous surfaces in several hours. Using an ultrasonic cleaner with the diluted bleach will speed the process and help to sterilize even porous surfaces.
Aside from the potential risk of pneumonia I would think that a thorough cleaning is recommended to reduce odors from developing.
Aside from the potential risk of pneumonia I would think that a thorough cleaning is recommended to reduce odors from developing.
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OberonChgo, I would be very careful about soaking any CPAP gear in bleach for several hours. It could destroy the mask.
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Lots of points to ponder here.
I live on a dirt side street and during the summer with the windows open, everything gets coated with a fine layer of dust. Since my PAP sits just a few feet from my bedroom window, I will be checking filters frequently. Inlet filters can cause excessive heat, and I intend for this PAP to last.
I have hard water so distilled is a must, but I'm also clumsy as hell and I can see myself causing damage to the reservoir while washing it out in my tiled bathroom. Murphy is an asshole that way.
I have an adorable Maine Coon with a plastic/rubber fetish; if it's bendy, she'll chew on it. I will likely be paying for another climate control hose out of pocket long before the six month mark, but if I should be so lucky I will definitely hold onto a spare that insurance has paid for until the inevitable occurs. Same goes with the vent hose and bracket. (And yes, I'm working on hose management solutions with this in mind. Plant pulleys and cable covers shall abound)
Pillows I shall stockpile, as it seems prudent to me to replace them after any nasty respiratory bug. My insurance allows for two per month, but I feel that two or three in reserve should be sufficient. As a healthcare worker I am far from germaphobic, but I am a MRSA carrier and quite frankly this thread has me so concerned about the broken skin on my nares that I almost feel the need to go scrub with antibac soap RIGHT NOW.
And that's probably way more than y'all wanted to hear from me. Can't wait to see some lasting results from my CPAP so my brain filters more effectively
I live on a dirt side street and during the summer with the windows open, everything gets coated with a fine layer of dust. Since my PAP sits just a few feet from my bedroom window, I will be checking filters frequently. Inlet filters can cause excessive heat, and I intend for this PAP to last.
I have hard water so distilled is a must, but I'm also clumsy as hell and I can see myself causing damage to the reservoir while washing it out in my tiled bathroom. Murphy is an asshole that way.
I have an adorable Maine Coon with a plastic/rubber fetish; if it's bendy, she'll chew on it. I will likely be paying for another climate control hose out of pocket long before the six month mark, but if I should be so lucky I will definitely hold onto a spare that insurance has paid for until the inevitable occurs. Same goes with the vent hose and bracket. (And yes, I'm working on hose management solutions with this in mind. Plant pulleys and cable covers shall abound)
Pillows I shall stockpile, as it seems prudent to me to replace them after any nasty respiratory bug. My insurance allows for two per month, but I feel that two or three in reserve should be sufficient. As a healthcare worker I am far from germaphobic, but I am a MRSA carrier and quite frankly this thread has me so concerned about the broken skin on my nares that I almost feel the need to go scrub with antibac soap RIGHT NOW.
And that's probably way more than y'all wanted to hear from me. Can't wait to see some lasting results from my CPAP so my brain filters more effectively
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I don't know if it's likely to damage the plastic, but I really hate the smell of bleach. If I get some on my hands, it bothers me for the rest of the day even if I wash it off several times.oberonChgo wrote:Having worked in biotech research for years it's amazing to me that no one has mentioned that soaking in a solution of a capful of bleach in a gallon of water will sterilize most non-porous surfaces in several hours. Using an ultrasonic cleaner with the diluted bleach will speed the process and help to sterilize even porous surfaces.
Aside from the potential risk of pneumonia I would think that a thorough cleaning is recommended to reduce odors from developing.
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HAH! now I know how to chase away the curmudgeonly dog! where's my spray bottle???archangle wrote: but I really hate the smell of bleach. If I get some on my hands, it bothers me for the rest of the day even if I wash it off several times.
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