PR S1 560 firmware question

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PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Tue May 14, 2013 10:15 am

I have the machine paid for by my insurance and issued through my DME (M1) and the cpap machine I paid for that I received from SecondWind (M2)
M1 has the firmware V3.03 and the M2 has the firmware V3.02.

I noticed that on the M2 machine, my RERA's are between 2.5 and nearly 4 per hour a night, but on M1, hardly any are ever recorded. (if this is true data recording on M2 - then this explains why my sleep despite low AHI is so fragmented).

Does any one know the differences between the two firmwares (V3.02 and V3.03) or where I can find some information / a write up on them to compare them? And if the RERA recordings on the V3.02 is accurate or not?

Any help or pointers in this would be much appreciated, thanks!

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by patrick_a » Tue May 14, 2013 10:40 am

You might try shooting secondwind an email if you don't get an answer here.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Wed May 15, 2013 3:13 pm

I just got off the phone from speaking to Chris at SecondWind and described the differences in the programing and asked if the RERA data is valid for the V3.02 firmware. He's going to ask Mark if they can research it and find anything out. The unit is so new that there is very little actually known on it.

I did several net searches and came up with zilch. I've had Phillips Resperonics on the phone before for help and the help I got was incredibly standoffish - so I'm not going to go there. I know my DME won't know anything, as she asked me to forward any information about the machine / experiences back to her as she knows precious little about it, as well.

So. .. this is in the works. When I find out what I find out, if I find out anything - I'll post it here.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by mollete » Thu May 16, 2013 4:16 am

Detection of a faulty/incorrect power supply, improved detection of occluded flow sensor and Auto Trial Reset (up to a point).

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Thu May 16, 2013 5:19 am

mollete wrote:Detection of a faulty/incorrect power supply, improved detection of occluded flow sensor and Auto Trial Reset (up to a point).
These were the improvements to the v3.03?

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by patrick_a » Thu May 16, 2013 12:37 pm

Looking at the rev change, I don't see a big reason for an update unless you're having problems with the blocked flow detection.

But, if you wanted to update, how? http://www.acbio.com/cpaprepair.htm for $65 will do it assuming they still offer this service. Prob doesn't include shipping, so you could be looking at close to $100 shipping both ways. Not worth it imho.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Thu May 16, 2013 4:03 pm

patrick_a wrote:Looking at the rev change, I don't see a big reason for an update unless you're having problems with the blocked flow detection.

But, if you wanted to update, how? http://www.acbio.com/cpaprepair.htm for $65 will do it assuming they still offer this service. Prob doesn't include shipping, so you could be looking at close to $100 shipping both ways. Not worth it imho.

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Eh, I don't think that's necessary. I spoke to Mark at SecondWind this morning - he said that the only difference between the two machines are two error messages coded into the V3.03. Both machines work just fine all the way around. If the machine I bought from SecondWind gives me a little more insight on the RERA's, then all the better. So it's not an issue. Thanks, Patrick!

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by mollete » Thu May 16, 2013 6:32 pm

quietmorning wrote:I spoke to Mark at SecondWind this morning - he said that the only difference between the two machines are two error messages coded into the V3.03.
Well, 3 actually. The incorrect power supply adds Error Code 31, and the occluded flow sensor improvement will reduce nuisance E84 and E85 Codes. In addition to the Auto Trial Reset, of course.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Thu May 16, 2013 7:49 pm

mollete wrote:
quietmorning wrote:I spoke to Mark at SecondWind this morning - he said that the only difference between the two machines are two error messages coded into the V3.03.
Well, 3 actually. The incorrect power supply adds Error Code 31, and the occluded flow sensor improvement will reduce nuisance E84 and E85 Codes. In addition to the Auto Trial Reset, of course.
So. . . the V3.02 will not Auto Trial Reset?

. . .

And what exactly is an Auto Trial Reset?

. . .

I just stepped into a rabbit hole. . .

. . .

I just know it.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by patrick_a » Thu May 16, 2013 8:25 pm

quietmorning wrote:
mollete wrote:
quietmorning wrote:I spoke to Mark at SecondWind this morning - he said that the only difference between the two machines are two error messages coded into the V3.03.
Well, 3 actually. The incorrect power supply adds Error Code 31, and the occluded flow sensor improvement will reduce nuisance E84 and E85 Codes. In addition to the Auto Trial Reset, of course.
So. . . the V3.02 will not Auto Trial Reset?

. . .

And what exactly is an Auto Trial Reset?

. . .

I just stepped into a rabbit hole. . .

. . .

I just know it.
You had to do it... didn't you

Auto-Trial is for a set number of days (30 max?). Once they are used up this feature is no longer avail. See viewtopic/t67530/New-PR-S1-Pro-Auto-IQ.html Partial reset prob is a one one time event for x days?

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by mollete » Fri May 17, 2013 3:20 am

patrick_a wrote:Auto-Trial is for a set number of days (30 max?). Once they are used up this feature is no longer avail. See viewtopic/t67530/New-PR-S1-Pro-Auto-IQ.html Partial reset prob is a one one time event for x days?
No, you are able to get up to 5 more Auto Trials.

However, if one does not have a machine with AutoIQ, then this would obviously be academic.

This strikes me a great upgrade for all those people who bought AutoIQs thinking "AutoIQ? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!"

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by mollete » Fri May 17, 2013 3:25 am

mollete wrote:This strikes me a great upgrade for all those people who bought AutoIQs thinking "AutoIQ? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!"
TS, perhaps 3.04 will add the ability to just turn it off.

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by mollete » Fri May 17, 2013 3:31 am

mollete wrote:
mollete wrote:This strikes me a great upgrade for all those people who bought AutoIQs thinking "AutoIQ? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!"
TS, perhaps 3.04 will add the ability to just turn it off.
Or at least, rename it to "AutoStoopid".

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Fri May 17, 2013 5:51 am

mollete wrote:
mollete wrote:
mollete wrote:This strikes me a great upgrade for all those people who bought AutoIQs thinking "AutoIQ? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!"
TS, perhaps 3.04 will add the ability to just turn it off.
Or at least, rename it to "AutoStoopid".

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Re: PR S1 560 firmware question

Post by quietmorning » Fri May 17, 2013 1:44 pm

patrick_a wrote:Looking at the rev change, I don't see a big reason for an update unless you're having problems with the blocked flow detection.

But, if you wanted to update, how? http://www.acbio.com/cpaprepair.htm for $65 will do it assuming they still offer this service. Prob doesn't include shipping, so you could be looking at close to $100 shipping both ways. Not worth it imho.

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I take that back. I think there's a bug. . .it reports apnea events low and rera events high. I sent them an email to ask if they update firmware. Thank you, Patrick!