What Really Causes Heart Disease

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What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by Vader » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:15 am

Interesting stuff here from a renowned heart specialist.
Doesn't surprise me at all...

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24251 ... rt-Disease

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by drdrew » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:27 am

LIKE LIKE AND LIKE!!!!!!! EXACTLY!!!

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by JohnBFisher » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:29 am

Not surprising, but well put. It's good to see a doctor be clear and open about his concerns. Thanks for posting.

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:34 am

Except that Otzi the Iceman had heart disease too
Not only was this genetic predisposition demonstrable in the 5,000-year-old ice mummy, there was also already a symptom in the form of arteriosclerosis, or hardening of the arteries. And yet, in his lifetime, Ötzi was not exposed to the risk factors which we consider today to be the significant triggers of cardiovascular disease. He was not overweight and no stranger to exercise.

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by Resister » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:41 am

Great article. Thanks!

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by Lizistired » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:22 pm

Video from another enlightened heart surgeon.
It seems Taubes is making some progress.

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OTOH-Hard to Know Who to Believe…

Post by NateS » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:52 pm

Hard to Know Who to Believe…

A Skeptical Look at Dwight Lundell, M.D.

By Stephen Barrett, M.D.

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/lundell.html
Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. lost medical license in 2008. Since that time he has been promoting books that clash with scientific knowledge of heart disease prevention and treatment. His book, The Great Cholesterol Lie, invites people to "forget about everything you have been told about low-fat diets, saturated fats, cholesterol and the causes of heart disease." According to The Great Cholesterol Lie Web site:

Dropping your cholesterol levels will not lower your risk of heart disease, attack, or strokes.
During his career as a cardiac surgeon, he performed over 5,000 heart operations, most of which could have been easily prevented had the patients been given the right information.
"Heart disease has a cure . . . .You can beat it without harmful medications and painful, risky surgery."
The Great Cholesterol Lie . . . is "as close to a new heart as you can get without laying on Dr. Lundell's table."
Lundell "guarantees" that the book "can turn your health around."


This article tells why I would not trust Lundell's advice.
Between 2000 and 2008, Lundell was subjected to five regulatory actions by the Arizona Medical Board:

In 2000, the board concluded that his postoperative management of a patient who died following carotid artery surgery was substandard and insufficiently documented. He was censured for unprofessional conduct, assessed a $2,500 civil penalty, and placed on probation during which he was required to take continuing medical education courses in carotid artery surgery and medical recordkeeping. He was also required to submit to monitoring of his patient records [4].
In 2003, the board noted that 13 out of 20 charts reviewed by the consultant were deficient because they did not include adequate initial evaluations of the patients. Lundell was censured again and was placed on probation that included quarterly chart reviews [5].
In 2004, the board found fault with his management of two patients and concluded that his records for these patients were inadequate. He was reprimanded and ordered to serve two more years of probation, during which he was required to undergo an extensive evaluation of his fitness to continue practicing medicine [6].
In 2006, the board sent him an advisory letter for failure to maintain adequate records and for a technical surgical error [7].
In 2008, the board reviewed Lundell's management of several more patients and revoked his medical license. The board's order indicated that the board began investigating his care of seven patients after the Banner Desert Medical Hospital suspended Lundell's surgical privileges [7].

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by Lizistired » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:51 pm

You're right Nate, there is finally enough information out there for people to make informed decisions, if they care to do their homework.
I've made mine. Low carb, no processed foods, 25 lbs gone without exercise, labs are great, not hungry all the time, not sleepy after I eat...
Now if I would just get away from this *$#*&$^#* computer.

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Re: What Really Causes Heart Disease

Post by Vader » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:06 am

:::bump:::

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