OT: Unbelievable
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:40 pm
Contracts awarded to the lowest bidder: It's the American way.kempo wrote:Why is this being allowed to happen?
"Under the Eavesdropping Act in Illinois, catching a cop crack down on a protester is a Class 1 felony.rocklin wrote:Why is this being allowed to happen?
I didn't vote for him!Goofproof wrote:You get the government others pay for.... Jim
You wanted change, you were just counting on it coming to you, it isn't.
I didn't either!! I voted for the pastey old white guy and the moose-hunting MILF!! Anyone who voted for, or is planning to posers or this poser is a damn ignorant fool, or, a communist themselves.kempo wrote:I didn't vote for him!Goofproof wrote:You get the government others pay for.... Jim
You wanted change, you were just counting on it coming to you, it isn't.
I AM NOT A DAMN IGNORANT FOOL, NOR AM I COMMUNIST.islandboy5150 wrote: Anyone who voted for, or is planning to posers or this poser is a damn ignorant fool, or, a communist themselves.
Every time there has been a tax reduction it has produced more revenue because people and companies have more money to spend which produces more tax revenue. The problem has been the politician continue to spend more than they take in. This post is not about that. It's about using Communist Chinese firms and workers to build our infrastructure in this country while our construction firms and workesr are out of work. That is what so unbelievable!idamtnboy wrote:I AM NOT A DAMN IGNORANT FOOL, NOR AM I COMMUNIST.islandboy5150 wrote: Anyone who voted for, or is planning to posers or this poser is a damn ignorant fool, or, a communist themselves.
You are going a little over the top with that kind of comment, Islandboy. I don't agree with much of what you write, and I don't agree with your viewpoint much of the time, but that DOES NOT make you a damn ignorant fool!
Now, back to Kempo's original comment/question. When you have business system that condones the idea a CEO is unquestionably justified to do anything and everything he can to reduce the costs of operation, and couple that with an overwhelming attitude on the right of the political spectrum that most taxation is bad, and tax reduction should be top priority, the natural result is exactly what Kempo is complaining about.
You will not have employment of Americans in preference to employment of foreigners when slash and burn is the approach to business costs and taxation.
Since the bridge contract is pre-Obama and strongly opposed by the unions, perhaps some of those commenting will decide that this is just free enterprise at work after all.Despite the American union complaints, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, strongly backed the project and even visited Zhenhua’s plant last September, praising “the workers that are building our Bay Bridge.”
Russia Today offered a tortured and implausible interpretation of the federal bill (it isn't law yet) to explain how someone innocent could get into trouble, but that isn't what was intended or how I would expect the courts to interpret it. Considering that the Senate passed the bill unanimously and the House passed it 399-3, if it is nearly as bad as Russia Today thinks, then Congress has officially reached 99.4 percent evil. I pulled up the Illinois law. It is an old anti-eavesdropping statute that has, in a couple of cases, been used to prosecute people who have secretly recorded their conversations with police. To the best of my knowledge, no one has used it against open video recording of the police. ACLU is fighting this use of the law, which I agree is inappropriate; however, if ACLU hates it maybe some will decide this must be okay too.hades161 wrote: Be careful if anyone tries to protest it, if ANYONE protected by the Secret Service is in the area (odds are you might not know it) its now a Federal crime.
https://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspa ... dings-437/
And be careful if you video tape police in Chicago. Its also a Felony.
https://rt.com/usa/news/summit-chicago-law-public-725/
Land of the Free, built by slave labor.
The point I'm trying to make is that with the attitude of US corporate leaders that it's laudable to cut business operation costs as low as possible regardless of the consequences on American workers, and state and local government agencies being on a tighter and tighter budgets, American workers are going to lose out to cheap foreign labor. It's been happening for years in manufacturing. Why is it surprising it's reaching into areas like construction? I didn't watch the video but I'll bet the construction work is being done by a state that is right-to-work and does not follow Davis-Bacon wage rules. Unless there has been some real serious loosening of contracting regulations in just the past few years, the construction work is not a Federal Government project. The Fed requires contractors to pay prevailing union labor rates, the Davis-Bacon rule, hence bringing in Chinese workers would cost more than American workers.kempo wrote:It's about using Communist Chinese firms and workers to build our infrastructure in this country while our construction firms and workesr are out of work. That is what so unbelievable!
The reason is thisidamtnboy wrote:Along this same line ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobile are building oil refining plants in Montana and Alberta. But they're not building them there. They're being, or have been, built in Asia in modules and then are being shipped to Montana and Alberta. The transport of them across northern Idaho caused a real ruckus because the loads would completely block the highway. Now if these plants were being built with American labor, even with imported steel, like such plants used to be, there would be no problem shipping the material. Most all of it would fit onto truck flat beds.
Another case of some of America's wealthiest corporations thumbing their nose at American labor. Just another case of American consumer money (fuel purchases) going to foreigners. The irony is the plants will be refining North American crude.
Some psychologists have long claimed that the qualities that make for a high-achieving politician or stockbroker are also the same traits that psychopaths have in abundance.
Other researchers generalize it to bosses as a species, saying that about 4 percent of all executives are psychopaths -- and that their relative lack of scruples is what helps them excel in business.
Them's bonafide troll words, fella. Either you intend to inflame this discussion by them, or you're really, really out of it.islandboy5150 wrote:Still, anybody that votes for the poser in chief is a goddamn brain dead libtard idiot. Too many have been brainwashed in our public schools and universities to know any damn better. Because their taught by Anti-American commie libtard unethical bastards, and that's a fact and I don't care who doesn't agree with that.