Another Battery Option

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by CapnLoki » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:50 pm

Guest wrote:
CapnLoki wrote:Actually, I didn't notice any reviews that sounded like they didn't charge before using.
can you show one that said they charged it before use
or after for that matter
mebbe it was sposed to stay charged forever
Looking at the first dozen or so "1" reviews on the Sears site there were several that clearly state they charged before using. Several others say they used it for a period and then it failed to take a charge. There is only one or two where you might guess that possibly they misused the device.

Frankly Guest, you're sounding more like a troll than an actual CPAP user. When are you going to stop hiding and offer something useful?

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by Guest » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:30 pm

CapnLoki wrote: When are you going to stop hiding and offer something useful?
actually i think i have already pointed out that
you consider yourself intelligent
that you are very judgmental
you post without reading
that there are people who are pleased with a product in spite of internet reviews
shall i go on

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by CapnLoki » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:26 pm

Guest wrote:
CapnLoki wrote: When are you going to stop hiding and offer something useful?
actually i think i have already pointed out that
you consider yourself intelligent
Why yes, I do. And I consider myself uniquely qualified to make that judgement.
Guest wrote:that you are very judgmental
I don't think so - my first post only pointed out the number unfavorable reviews and the fact that it isn't a very large and probably can't run a humidifier. All easily confirmed undeniable facts. The rest is simply reactions to your comments. You, on the other hand, have essentially claimed that 100 or so reviewers are complete idiots who didn't understand that a battery must be charged before its use. Or that they are part of some bizarre conspiracy to discredit a perfect product. How is that not judgmental?
Guest wrote:you post without reading
Yes, its true that I had trouble reading a 100 post, three year old thread about a product that I knew I wouldn't buy. But still, I haven't found anything that contradicts my initial impression.
Guest wrote:that there are people who are pleased with a product in spite of internet reviews
Actually there is one person who is pleased, but he only actually ran it a few nights. And he only only vague claims about how long the battery actually lasted. And he stopped posting a few years ago, so we can't ask him to clarify a few points. The other poster seems pleased with his battery (a different unit) but his experience shows some limitations of this type of device.
And I'll freely admit that while a third of the reviews were negative, there was a greater number of favorable reviews, so obviously lots of people like it. But I don't like to buy products, especially emergency backups that won't be tested until sometime in the future when a third of the reviewers say it might crap out when its needed.
Guest wrote:shall i go on
You can keep digging the hole deeper if you must. But I'd rather you did something useful, like buy the battery, charge it up, run it til its discharged, rinse, repeat, and then report back.

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by Guest » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:10 pm

CapnLoki wrote:Yes, its true that I had trouble reading a 100 post, three year old thread about a product that I knew I wouldn't buy. But still, I haven't found anything that contradicts my initial impression.
no one asked you to post (in a 3yo thread)
or to comment on a product which you have not used
nor intend to buy
that makes you nts

then you want people to think you know more about the product
than those who took the time to share their experience here
that puts you on par with those anonymous internet posters
you put your faith in
who prolly never charged after use like
the posters in this forum said

obtw - the people who posted said they both had the same battery pack from sears
read that again

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by CapnLoki » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:09 pm

Guest wrote:
CapnLoki wrote:Yes, its true that I had trouble reading a 100 post, three year old thread about a product that I knew I wouldn't buy. But still, I haven't found anything that contradicts my initial impression.
no one asked you to post (in a 3yo thread)
or to comment on a product which you have not used
nor intend to buy
that makes you nts
What's your problem? I read many of the posts; I read the specs on the product; I read many of the reviews. Lots of people comment on products they don't own. You've been commenting on this and as far as we know you don't even have a CPAP. Getting this worked up about something that you apparently know nothing about seems "nts" to me.
Guest wrote: then you want people to think you know more about the product
than those who took the time to share their experience here
I never claimed to have any specific knowledge about this particular device. I do have considerably specific knowledge about powering small devices, including CPAPs, on batteries since I've spent a month or two every year living "off-grid" on battery power for the last twenty years. I do know how to read specs, and I know what it means to have 24 Amps-hours of juice in an AGM battery.
Guest wrote: that puts you on par with those anonymous internet posters
you put your faith in
who prolly never charged after use like
the posters in this forum said
Oy! Again with the judgements!
Guest wrote:obtw - the people who posted said they both had the same battery pack from sears
read that again
Yes, you're right: GumbyCT has the Sears, SleepyCPAP said he had the Diehard, which I confused with the Duracell, but is actually from Sears. But he confirmed my claim that its small and said it couldn't charge enough during the day to recover from a nights use. Still no evidence for your claim it can power a humidifier for two nights. (Of course, this requires knowing what pump you plan to power and your haven't shared that with us.)

And remember, in spite of your accusations, I never said this was a bad device, only that I was skeptical of some of the claims, was concerned about the large number of negative reviews, and personally preferred to use a different approach, based on a much larger battery.

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by Guest » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:40 am

Get ready for the next power outage.

DieHard Platinum Portable Power 1150 is on sale... appears to have two diff prices not sure what the diff is
one @ $80 another @$100. Since I can't post a link just search Sears dot com for "DieHard Platinum Portable Power 1150".

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by Guest » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:50 pm

I would suggest having two so you can charge one while using the other. Or more if you are camping away from power. You don't see these on sale often.

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by archangle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:23 pm

RogerSC wrote: I believe that Resmed has a very expensive battery pack that doesn't require buying the separate 12V -> 24V dc power converter. Or if you happened to have a 24V battery lying around you wouldn't need the Resmed converter, either.
The ResMed S9 machines have a 3 pin connector. Two of the pins are the 24V supply, but the third pin has some sort of signal on it, and the blower may not work if you don't have the right signal on this pin.

Someone hooked it up to a scope and the signal had some sort of digital pulses on it, so apparently, you're locked into authentic ResMed power supplies or converters.

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Re: Another Battery Option

Post by Zuette » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:21 am

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