williamco wrote:Thank you for your comment
but for others, that if no air movement inside the throat, then all parts have same pressure. but once you start to inhale there is a an air current with a force, the direction of the air current will have a difference in pressure on different parts of throat based on directions.
williamco wrote:but for others who have some etiquette in conversations, pressure is not equal if there is a movement, pressure is only equal if the air is still. current of air will have force and create different pressure based on direction
if no air movement inside the throat, then all parts have same pressure. but once you start to inhale there is a an air current with a force, (this is the aerodynamic which is the pressure created by air movements, that is different than pressure created by air only )
there is pressure of air, and pressure of air current
the direction of the air current will have a difference in pressure on different parts of throat based on directions
Ignorance usually comes with arrogance
aerodynamics refers to the forces and motion of moving air .... it is NOT pressure.
williamco wrote:5422 posts in 4 years, more than 4 posts a day, antagonising people not only in this post but in other posts. do you have a life?
if this topic is wrong for your brilliant IQ, go on to your life or other posts that meets your level of IQ
williamco wrote:for the rest, some moron wroteaerodynamics refers to the forces and motion of moving air .... it is NOT pressure.
what is pressure but a force?
williamco wrote:this is exactly what I am talking about what we have with CPAP is not only a static pressure per square inch, but also forces of moving air in the throat (aerodynamics)
while trying to dispute, he proved it
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drubin007 wrote:I may be the only one that thinks this but I do not think I even have OSA...
Sure the sleep studies reflect that I do and the cpap did show positive results
which is why I have not missed a single night in over a year... I have gone from
a cpap to an apap, and pretty much monitor my own progress, although I have not downloaded my
data in a while now. Life seems to get in the way sometimes and time constraints.
Truth of the matter, I feel the same now as I did before I started with cpap therapy.
I have mentioned this to my doctor and the next step was more drastic (heavy drugs?)
so I now just say I am doing better and life is grand.
I never had the bad symtoms of so many others on here, just tired.
What I suspect, is that I hold my breath for short periods (subconsciously).
I have caught myself doing this during waking hours as well as in light levels of sleep.
That being said, blowing air up my nasal passages is not going to open my airway.
I do not mean to do it, and only seldom catch myself doing it, but I think thats my issue.
I am loyal to my F&P machine, because I know the long term results of OSA
and if I am wrong do not want to be a burnen on my family in later years...
The only noticable difference since being on cpap for me is I do not snore.
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Thomas F. wrote:Good, but hostile, discussion.
There have been many postings about avoiding suppine (back) sleeping. For many people, me included, back sleeping requires higher pressure than normally needed when sleeping on side or stomach. This is logical -- and proven by many that have the data --- because the tongue has a higher probability of blocking the airway when back sleeping. Maybe even a low,fleshy pallet gets worse when on your back?? To create breathing space around the tongue takes more pressure. My guess is both the FFM and nasal mask approach can get the job done if the pressure is high enough. For me I choose to force myself to side/stomach sleep and go with less pressure get the many other benefits of lower pressure as well.