Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

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Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by fortomorrow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:04 pm

I'm in the market for a FFM because I'm not as pleased with the Hybrid as I previously thought.

I've read the reviews, I've read the forums, I've measured my face. I still can't decide between the Quattro, the Ultra Mirage, and the FlexiFit.

So which mask do you use? I've got a pretty round face with a decently sized nose and I'm concerned with leaks around the eyes and sores on the bridge of my nose.

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by skittles » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:14 pm

I am going through the same thing -- I have looked and looked until I am cross-eyed.

I have a "Roman" nose -- long and narrow

I am looking at the FexiFit HC 431 on cpapauction.com -- I measured my face and this is one they suggested for me, and plus it comes with all three size pillows.

My husband has said I have that "big italian" nose, but it is not big, just long

Oh, and I wanted to mention that my home health center told me "you don't want to go the FFM route, believe me" so of course that put me off right away -- wonder why??

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Post by CRS » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:15 pm

Have you looked at the full face Zzz-Mask? For me it's the only non-hybrid FFM that doesn't kill the bridge of my nose.
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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by fortomorrow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:25 pm

CRS wrote:Have you looked at the full face Zzz-Mask? For me it's the only non-hybrid FFM that doesn't kill the bridge of my nose.
I like the fact that it doesn't have a forehead stabiliser, but I'm concerned that it goes so far up near the eyes. Do you notice any leaking around there?

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Post by GumbyCT » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:56 pm

skittles wrote:Oh, and I wanted to mention that my home health center told me "you don't want to go the FFM route, believe me" so of course that put me off right away -- wonder why??
A FFM touches more surface area there-by making it more difficult to seal. When you lay down you put pressure on your face, distorting it and making it difficult to keep the seal.

Nasal Pillows are by far the easiest to seal. Nasal mask would be next.

Both 431/2 are very comfy masks, I just had problems with leaks. If your face is the right shape, I guess it will seal.

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by GuyK » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:09 pm

I have the 431 -- my avatar is pretty close to what I really look like, so I do have a round head. However, I seem to be kind of narrow in the nasal region. I mostly get leaks near my eyes. Both sides, depending towards which candidate I am leaning. The three inserts are nice, but I've tried all three. A really round head may tolerate the large, but it was way too big for me. The small one leaked on me a lot too. So, I'm the mid size.

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by carbonman » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:13 pm

fortomorrow wrote:I'm in the market for a FFM because I'm not as pleased with the Hybrid as I previously thought.

I've read the reviews, I've read the forums, I've measured my face. I still can't decide between the Quattro, the Ultra Mirage, and the FlexiFit.

So which mask do you use? .
viewtopic/t35852/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34 ... er#p298811

Since compiling that post, I have gone back to UMmed.
It has been working very well, everynight.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by GumbyCT » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:32 pm

carbonman wrote:
fortomorrow wrote:So which mask do you use? .
viewtopic/t35852/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34 ... er#p298811
Since compiling that post, I have gone back to UMmed.
It has been working very well, everynight.
CM Your profile say "/Mirage Quattro FFM w/headgear " but I am fresh out of 2x4's my friend.
The UMFF does seal very well even under higher pressures.

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Post by carbonman » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:06 pm

GumbyCT wrote:
The UMFF does seal very well even under higher pressures.
....you know, that is that "fickle" thing I was talking about,
the Quattro just about caused me one of those,
"I ripped it off and threw it across the room" moments.
I can not get them to seal.
The UM, very few problems.....night after night. It just works.
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Post by fortomorrow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:18 pm

Ah ha, I'd forgot that the FlexiFit goes under the chin. I really dislike that (I had to cut the chin flap off my Hybrid) so I don't think that one is a weiner.

Thanks carbonman. I read that last month but couldn't remember everything it said. Very helpful.

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by GumbyCT » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:31 pm

carbonman wrote:
GumbyCT wrote: I am fresh out of 2x4's my friend.

....oh man, I thought I would always be able to know,
you would be there for me, 2X4 in hand.......
Have I told you?
Today?
Glad I could help

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by 2girlsmom » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:11 pm

I have a chubby face and the Quattro works well for me, I also tried the UMFF but it leaked around the eye area. With the Quattro I get a much better fit and no eye leaking.

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Post by congahands » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:14 pm

I love my Quattro!!! Almost no leaks. I'm pretty round faced. I do keep the straps pretty tight. But I have a pressure of 16 and, at the moment, I have c-flex turned off.

The forehead stabilizer ends up rocking the mask back and forth on my cheek bones. But the micro adjustment makes it pretty easy.

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Post by cat in a hat » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:23 pm

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Re: Fat face? FFM user? Tell me what mask you love.

Post by roster » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:59 pm

fortomorrow wrote:I'm in the market for a FFM because I'm not as pleased with the Hybrid as I previously thought.

I've read the reviews, I've read the forums, I've measured my face. I still can't decide between the Quattro, the Ultra Mirage, and the FlexiFit.

So which mask do you use? I've got a pretty round face with a decently sized nose and I'm concerned with leaks around the eyes and sores on the bridge of my nose.
What are the problems with the Hybrid?

You can easily avoid leaks around the eyes and nose bridge sores with a Hybrid.

Here are some tips on adjusting and using the Hybrid: viewtopic.php?t=14422&highlight=

If you need a FF mask, it will be a shame if you can't get the Hybrid to work. It is lighter weight and less confining than any traditional FF mask.

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