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Re: CPAP Machine

Postby phillidouglas on Fri May 19, 2017 11:57 am

JeffH wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Den: Regardless of where it's sold and who sells it, it's STILL a medical device in the eyes of the FDA as well as any attorney that may be interested in where his client purchased it, should an undesired event occur.

Someone selling their used CPAP in a garage sale is simply asking for trouble and not a very smart individual.

THESE ARE MEDICAL DEVICES PEOPLE!


Medical devices .. like a wheelchairs? Gurnees? Crutches?

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby phillidouglas on Fri May 19, 2017 12:04 pm

CPAP machine is that, a machine, like wheel chair, gurnee and crutches.
I wouldn't think if you don't give out a prescription to the individual, suggest to them to match their own Rx or go to a sleep therapist for a Rx, why would it be illegal to sell?

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby Julie on Fri May 19, 2017 12:21 pm

And you're replying to a 9 yr old note... why dig it up at all?

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby Goofproof on Fri May 19, 2017 12:43 pm

[quote="Julie"]And you're replying to a 9 yr old note... why dig it up at all?[/quo

Probably didn't read the whole thread. Didn't have time to log in, just had 1.3 cents to add. Keep trolling the junk threads. Used to be a weekend problem, now it's every day. Jim

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby chunkyfrog on Fri May 19, 2017 1:21 pm

Ancient thread notwithstanding, secondhand stores and surviving family have sold medical items for ages.
I have seen crutches, walkers, wheelchairs, mobility scooters, braces, and a hearing aid conditioner, most quite cheap.
Many of these items appear on a prescription ONLY so INSURANCE WILL PAY FOR IT, as they are not narcotics.
These sales are often the only access many have to the medical supplies they NEED.
The "law" which is being discussed either does not exist, or is not aggressively enforced,
because to do so would be foolish and asinine.

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby sc0ttt on Fri May 19, 2017 3:54 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Probably didn't read the whole thread. Didn't have time to log in, just had 1.3 cents to add


Well, that's one of the longer list of APA's I've seen... that was interesting.

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby Holden4th on Sat May 20, 2017 4:39 am

sc0ttt wrote:
Goofproof wrote:
Probably didn't read the whole thread. Didn't have time to log in, just had 1.3 cents to add


Well, that's one of the longer list of APA's I've seen... that was interesting.

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..and might be a clue as to how the asian spammers have found us so easy to infiltrate. Whoever posted seems to know how to spoof real member identities.

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby zoocrewphoto on Sat May 20, 2017 10:04 pm

Holden4th wrote:
sc0ttt wrote:
Goofproof wrote:
Probably didn't read the whole thread. Didn't have time to log in, just had 1.3 cents to add


Well, that's one of the longer list of APA's I've seen... that was interesting.

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..and might be a clue as to how the asian spammers have found us so easy to infiltrate. Whoever posted seems to know how to spoof real member identities.


It's probably a public wifi that has been used by many of us. I usually post from home. But I do sometimes post when I am staying in a hotel.

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby chunkyfrog on Mon May 22, 2017 8:55 pm

Not public in my case!
AT&T CELL SIGNAL, straight to my tablet.
I feel ripped off--I really feel my money buys a private line.

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby Goofproof on Mon May 22, 2017 9:11 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Not public in my case!
AT&T CELL SIGNAL, straight to my tablet.
I feel ripped off--I really feel my money buys a private line.


A private line would two tin cans and a string, even then some soup can hacker would tie his string to yours and post cans of Spam. Jim

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Re: Is it legal to sell a used CPAP machine

Postby chunkyfrog on Mon May 22, 2017 9:28 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Guest with Multiple IDs

Postby Sheffey on Tue May 23, 2017 10:57 am

How is that happening?

Why didn't I get invited to the party?
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Re: Guest with Multiple IDs

Postby Goofproof on Tue May 23, 2017 11:01 am

Sheffey wrote:How is that happening?

Why didn't I get invited to the party?


Get a string and a can, tie one on! :lol: Jim

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Postby SewTired on Tue May 23, 2017 9:57 pm

Guest wrote:Den: Regardless of where it's sold and who sells it, it's STILL a medical device in the eyes of the FDA as well as any attorney that may be interested in where his client purchased it, should an undesired event occur.

Someone selling their used CPAP in a garage sale is simply asking for trouble and not a very smart individual.

THESE ARE MEDICAL DEVICES PEOPLE!


The FDA doesn't regulate USED medical devices. They regulate manufacturers. States have the option to regulate used medical devices and in fact, many states restrict who can buy such things as used X-ray machines. However, other than California, I have not seen any state regulate the sales of used xpaps. What states DO regulate is who is allowed to change the settings on the machines. I can tell someone how to change their settings, but other than an immediate family member, cannot make those changes myself because I'm not a state authorized person.

I would also add that it seems used oxygen concentrators are ALSO not regulated. In the past, it was impossible to get the replacement supplies needed, but seems you can do so now if you pay out of pocket. Yay!

Note: California lists xpaps as 'dangerous medical devices' :roll: and it appears that this label remains attached even if you own the device. However, it could have been altered since then, so who knows (I don't live in CA, so not worth my time to pursue).

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