This is in the June 2005 magazine:
The Diabetes Sleep Cure?
A better night's sleep may improve diabetes symptoms, say doctors at Rush University Medical Center. A link between sleep apnea and diabetes has long been suspected. Now, in a small study of 25 obese people with diabetes, researchers report that treating sleep apnea can lower blood sugar levels, which may cut the risk of complications such as heart disease or eye and nerve damage. When people wore a CPAP mask (which keeps the nasal passages open, preventing airway collapse) for at least four hours a night, they lowered their glucose as much as other therapies, such as exercise, do. More research is needed to confirm these findings and determine whether treating sleep apnea can slow or prevent the onset of diabetes, says study author Theodore Mazzone, now at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
Reader's Digest Sleep Apnea/Diabetes article
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Gee , lower your blood sugar even more by staying out of the cookie jar ! Just enough info to sound really lame. What about those that don't have cookie induced OSA ? The sad part is that OUR Tax $$ probably paid for this study. Something that is already known by those that read this forum !
CPAP works ! But we're not all obese or diabetic. Some of us are thin. This isn't just a FAT ailment.
What next ? Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. Warts caused by toads . Maybe sunburn is caused by being outside without sunscreen or an umbrella. Perhaps they need a secret decoder ring.
Irving
CPAP works ! But we're not all obese or diabetic. Some of us are thin. This isn't just a FAT ailment.
What next ? Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. Warts caused by toads . Maybe sunburn is caused by being outside without sunscreen or an umbrella. Perhaps they need a secret decoder ring.
Irving
What if it does help those with diabetes? It's something to consider anyway. I'm more upset with the fact that all the money that has been allocated for the war on terrorism in the U.S. is going to towns who really don't need it & are using it as a government freebie to buy whatever they want. Millions of our tax dollars being wasted. I'd rather see money going to medical studies that might benefit people, even the fat ones. You sound awfully prejudiced Irving.
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Prejudiced, Noway. Just making fun of these folks that just discovered the world isn't flat. If they would just leave their campuses and join the real world they might learn a thing or too. This is really old news. Thats all I'm saying.
Sleep apnea causes : weight gain, depression, a multitude of heart abnormalities, fibromyalgia, sexual problems, many, many more ailments.
Knowing that they have sleep apnea is a godsend to many. Because they can finally do something about it. It is life altering and the treatment is simple and inexpensive. CPAP !
You can tell how much research really went into the article. Next to none.
Irving
Sleep apnea causes : weight gain, depression, a multitude of heart abnormalities, fibromyalgia, sexual problems, many, many more ailments.
Knowing that they have sleep apnea is a godsend to many. Because they can finally do something about it. It is life altering and the treatment is simple and inexpensive. CPAP !
You can tell how much research really went into the article. Next to none.
Irving
I must agree with Irving. This article reads more like a press release. The space could have been better used by describing sleep apnea, What it is, symptoms and other conditions associated with OSA . How to get tested and the treatment . This would give people something to take to their Dr. and say look at this . I have these symptoms. I need to be tested !
Instead we get a press release with no solid explanation of whats going on. If you're Fat and have OSA it might mean something. To the rest that may have undiagnosed OSA it tells them nothing.
Its really old info anyway.
Cheers,
Chris
Instead we get a press release with no solid explanation of whats going on. If you're Fat and have OSA it might mean something. To the rest that may have undiagnosed OSA it tells them nothing.
Its really old info anyway.
Cheers,
Chris
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I can't believe all the negative responses to this article. Sure it was just a brief summary of the study, but that doesn't make the study garbage and a waste of time.
There is plenty of anectdotal evidence suggesting all the linkages you folks listed above, but there is very little hard scientific evidence that the medical community can use to work from.
I for one found this article interesting and hope Lori and others will continue to post references to them here and not get discouraged by the reaction this post got.
The fact that this study focused on overweight people says nothing about thin people. They had to start somewhere and with there being plenty of evidence linking sleep apnea and diabetes both with being overweight it was probably a logical first choice.
Lighten up, I'm not overweight but in the last 2 years i have been diagnosed with high blood pressure, diabetes, and now sleep apnea. I found this article interesting and for one hope more studies such as this are funded.
Ron
There is plenty of anectdotal evidence suggesting all the linkages you folks listed above, but there is very little hard scientific evidence that the medical community can use to work from.
I for one found this article interesting and hope Lori and others will continue to post references to them here and not get discouraged by the reaction this post got.
The fact that this study focused on overweight people says nothing about thin people. They had to start somewhere and with there being plenty of evidence linking sleep apnea and diabetes both with being overweight it was probably a logical first choice.
Lighten up, I'm not overweight but in the last 2 years i have been diagnosed with high blood pressure, diabetes, and now sleep apnea. I found this article interesting and for one hope more studies such as this are funded.
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Here's an article with facts (and it doesn't ever mention the word obese).
Date: 2005-03-14
Treatment Of Sleep Apnea Lowers Glucose Levels In Diabetics
Patients with Type II diabetes who also suffer from obstructive sleep apnea can lower their glucose levels by receiving the most common sleep apnea therapy, a new study has found.
The study appears in the Feb. 28 Archives of Internal Medicine.
Dr. James Herdegen, associate professor of medicine at the University of Illinois at Chicago and medical director of the UIC Center for Sleep and Ventilatory Disorders, and his co-authors measured glucose levels of participants before and after continuous positive airway pressure therapy, or CPAP.
Obstructive sleep apnea is a sleep disorder in which a person's breathing stops or becomes irregular during sleep as a result of a collapsed airway. This disrupts healthy sleep and causes a number of short-term and long-lasting effects that threaten health. Previous research has found sleep apnea sufferers are nine times more likely to have diabetes than those without the sleep disorder.CPAP, the most common treatment option for obstructive sleep apnea, involves wearing a mask that supplies a steady stream of air through the nose during sleep. The airflow keeps the nasal passages open sufficiently to prevent airway collapse.
When CPAP treatment was administered for at least four hours each day, there was a significant reduction in the participants' glucose levels. By lowering glucose levels, patients with diabetes significantly can reduce their risk of developing late-stage complications including cardiovascular, kidney, eye and nerve disease.
"With such clear evidence for the high risk of sleep apnea among patients with Type II diabetes, it is encouraging that our data show patients can achieve better control of their glucose levels with CPAP therapy," Herdegen said. Based on the study's results, Herdegen recommends that diabetic patients who exhibit symptoms such as excessive daytime sleepiness and loud, persistent snoring be screened for sleep apnea and seek treatment if the sleep disorder is confirmed.
More than 18 million people in the United States have diabetes, and studies show this number is on the rise. Diabetes is a disease in which the body does not produce or properly use insulin and can lead to death if not treated properly. Approximately 18 million Americans suffer from obstructive sleep apnea, although 90 percent have not been diagnosed.
Date: 2005-03-14
Treatment Of Sleep Apnea Lowers Glucose Levels In Diabetics
Patients with Type II diabetes who also suffer from obstructive sleep apnea can lower their glucose levels by receiving the most common sleep apnea therapy, a new study has found.
The study appears in the Feb. 28 Archives of Internal Medicine.
Dr. James Herdegen, associate professor of medicine at the University of Illinois at Chicago and medical director of the UIC Center for Sleep and Ventilatory Disorders, and his co-authors measured glucose levels of participants before and after continuous positive airway pressure therapy, or CPAP.
Obstructive sleep apnea is a sleep disorder in which a person's breathing stops or becomes irregular during sleep as a result of a collapsed airway. This disrupts healthy sleep and causes a number of short-term and long-lasting effects that threaten health. Previous research has found sleep apnea sufferers are nine times more likely to have diabetes than those without the sleep disorder.CPAP, the most common treatment option for obstructive sleep apnea, involves wearing a mask that supplies a steady stream of air through the nose during sleep. The airflow keeps the nasal passages open sufficiently to prevent airway collapse.
When CPAP treatment was administered for at least four hours each day, there was a significant reduction in the participants' glucose levels. By lowering glucose levels, patients with diabetes significantly can reduce their risk of developing late-stage complications including cardiovascular, kidney, eye and nerve disease.
"With such clear evidence for the high risk of sleep apnea among patients with Type II diabetes, it is encouraging that our data show patients can achieve better control of their glucose levels with CPAP therapy," Herdegen said. Based on the study's results, Herdegen recommends that diabetic patients who exhibit symptoms such as excessive daytime sleepiness and loud, persistent snoring be screened for sleep apnea and seek treatment if the sleep disorder is confirmed.
More than 18 million people in the United States have diabetes, and studies show this number is on the rise. Diabetes is a disease in which the body does not produce or properly use insulin and can lead to death if not treated properly. Approximately 18 million Americans suffer from obstructive sleep apnea, although 90 percent have not been diagnosed.
Lori, When the big cities get nuked, gassed, attacked in whatever way, it will be the small towns that come to the rescue. Also, when the big cities become more hardened the terrorists will look for softer targets. The small towns. We must all be prepared.Lori wrote:What if it does help those with diabetes? It's something to consider anyway. I'm more upset with the fact that all the money that has been allocated for the war on terrorism in the U.S. is going to towns who really don't need it & are using it as a government freebie to buy whatever they want. Millions of our tax dollars being wasted. I'd rather see money going to medical studies that might benefit people, even the fat ones. You sound awfully prejudiced Irving.
I was a firefighter in a small town in Texas. We traveled nearly 200 miles to provide flood relief to a small city north of Houston. We specialized in water rescue since we are located on a large lake. We rescued nearly 100 people. We did this while Houston slept.
We need to dump this idea that aircraft are the only method of attack. The German U boats inflicted heavy losses to our merchant fleet during WW II.
After the Allies developed tactics using SONAR the U boats were ineffective.
A more realistic scenario would go like this. A terrorist waits at the local gas station . When the fuel truck arrives he disables the driver , takes the truck and drives it thru the nearest school or shopping mall. No RADAR, Fighter jet , Homeland Security guy at the airport or politician in Washington will stop them because these terrorists are smarter than that. Fixed fortifications are monuments to stupidity.
Now I ask you this.
ARE YOUR CHILDREN MORE IMPORTANT THAN MINE ?
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I think it is great that even if it is old news that they keep getting this information out to people that have not seen it before or maybe need to be reminded, especially if they or their loved ones have diabetes or are borderline diabetics. With more and more published articles about SA people will learn what it means; how it debilitates so many and how it can and does help so many. Many people think that you just snore a lot and some even laugh unless you find one of those that have never even heard of it. Sleep Apnea we have all found out can rob your body of much needed cell builders causing and amplifying many diseases. Regular loss of oxygen to our body can do damage to all of us no matter what age, shape, or gender. You are so correct that SA is not just a FAT ailment. Because of SA research, no matter what kind, we now know with treatment we can reduce, reverse, or even cure some serious problems that not so long ago we could not have done. Heck we xpapers may even live longer now because of that research. Should it matter who SA research helps? Astonishing that XPAP can help so many. Wouldn't it be great if a lot of our family health histories can be just that.
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Keep posting Lori.
I agree - any mention of OSA (or, in this case CPAP) and its effects is good.
Some people will read it - wherever - and disregard it.
Others will say: gosh, maybe I should talk to my doctor about that possibility - and do so. Many of us here first thought of sleep apnea because of something in the popular media. If people with type II diabetes read this, and ask their doctor for a sleep test, that would be wonderful!
Lori and neversleeps are quoting sources that refer to the same original article. Here's the Article Abstract (You have to subscribe to the journal in order to read the full text.)
First researcher on the list - Herdegen last one Mazzone.
And it is interesting to note that the original researchers do not even mention the words obese or fat in their abstract. It's an article about type II diabetes, and how CPAP therapy lowers glucose level in those who have the disease. This is not old news, not at all about the cookie jar and may give encouragement and hope to those of us who have type II diabetes.
As for overweight and obesity -
The rest of this is slightly off topic... but I too have a twinge reaction when weight is mentioned.. sorry.
You want to hazard a guess as to why Readers Digest mentioned obesity? Take a look at their site - http://www.readersdigest.com - down the right side of the screen. The diet business is a multimillion dollar business - which never publishes studies in peer reviewed journals on the long term results of their diet. Because what happens with diets is you lose weight, and then you rebound -
Here's what the Center for Disease Contor has to say about being overweight and weight loss methods: http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/transcripts/t050602.htm
I'ld like to emphasise two points from that source:
"We need to be absolutely explicitly clear about one thing: obesity and overweight are critically important health threats in this country. They have many adverse consequences"
..." But we also unfortunately don't yet know the best way to support Americans who want to sustain weight loss for a long period of time. There are many ideas and many fads, but the science [should be "studies" ozij] that really helps understand the very best strategies for sustained weight loss are remaining to be conducted."
However diet ads, and diet cover stories in the spring are one of the best ways to support the Readers Digest's - and many other publications and companies' bank accounts.
And a thought provoking book for those who've been on this roller coaster for years:
Beyond the shadow of a diet - weight loss myths
I am not in any way connected to the book's authors, I bought the book, and would recommend to any one interested in the subject.
O.
I agree - any mention of OSA (or, in this case CPAP) and its effects is good.
Some people will read it - wherever - and disregard it.
Others will say: gosh, maybe I should talk to my doctor about that possibility - and do so. Many of us here first thought of sleep apnea because of something in the popular media. If people with type II diabetes read this, and ask their doctor for a sleep test, that would be wonderful!
Lori and neversleeps are quoting sources that refer to the same original article. Here's the Article Abstract (You have to subscribe to the journal in order to read the full text.)
First researcher on the list - Herdegen last one Mazzone.
The Archives of Internal Medicine, (I quote from their self description) "is an international peer-reviewed journal published 22 times per year and reaches the majority of office- and hospital-based general internists and significant numbers of internal medicine subspecialists in the United States. The Archives of Internal Medicine's recent acceptance rate is about 10%" (my emphasis)The study appears in the Feb. 28 Archives of Internal Medicine
And it is interesting to note that the original researchers do not even mention the words obese or fat in their abstract. It's an article about type II diabetes, and how CPAP therapy lowers glucose level in those who have the disease. This is not old news, not at all about the cookie jar and may give encouragement and hope to those of us who have type II diabetes.
As for overweight and obesity -
The rest of this is slightly off topic... but I too have a twinge reaction when weight is mentioned.. sorry.
You want to hazard a guess as to why Readers Digest mentioned obesity? Take a look at their site - http://www.readersdigest.com - down the right side of the screen. The diet business is a multimillion dollar business - which never publishes studies in peer reviewed journals on the long term results of their diet. Because what happens with diets is you lose weight, and then you rebound -
Here's what the Center for Disease Contor has to say about being overweight and weight loss methods: http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/transcripts/t050602.htm
I'ld like to emphasise two points from that source:
"We need to be absolutely explicitly clear about one thing: obesity and overweight are critically important health threats in this country. They have many adverse consequences"
..." But we also unfortunately don't yet know the best way to support Americans who want to sustain weight loss for a long period of time. There are many ideas and many fads, but the science [should be "studies" ozij] that really helps understand the very best strategies for sustained weight loss are remaining to be conducted."
However diet ads, and diet cover stories in the spring are one of the best ways to support the Readers Digest's - and many other publications and companies' bank accounts.
And a thought provoking book for those who've been on this roller coaster for years:
Beyond the shadow of a diet - weight loss myths
I am not in any way connected to the book's authors, I bought the book, and would recommend to any one interested in the subject.
O.
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