Still tired, I have data.

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pinguin420
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Still tired, I have data.

Post by pinguin420 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:29 pm

Hello everyone,

I've been fatigued all my life and I am sick of it! ( I am 19 now).

My GP didn't want to send me to a sleep test so I unfortunately have to
do it myself. I purchased an Airsense 10 with nose pillows.
I figured this way I can check sleepyheads data to see if anything is wrong.

I am pretty sure I do not have obstructive sleep apnea, does
someone with a good eye see anything else?

I thought it might be UARS or central apnea?
Are these detectable with this data?

This data is from three hours of sleep.
After that I woke up and slept 4 more hears with the cpap.

I use pressure around 12.
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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:05 pm

pinguin420 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:29 pm
I use pressure around 12.
Change the pressure to min 4.0/max 12.0 and sleep again.

If min 4.0 makes you feel like not getting enough air, up the min to 6.0.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by pinguin420 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:24 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:05 pm
pinguin420 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:29 pm
I use pressure around 12.
Change the pressure to min 4.0/max 12.0 and sleep again.

If min 4.0 makes you feel like not getting enough air, up the min to 6.0.
Thanks for your comment!
I'll try that.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by musculus » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:16 pm

need to zoom in further at where the inhalation volume has lots of variations. for example, dig into the flow chart around 1:50 AM.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by pinguin420 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:34 pm

musculus wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:16 pm
need to zoom in further at where the inhalation volume has lots of variations. for example, dig into the flow chart around 1:50 AM.
Like this?
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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:50 pm

pinguin420 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:34 pm
Like this?
It doesn't look like an apnea. See the irregular breathing just before breathing stopped? You probably woke up, moved around a bit and reflexively held your breath before settling in to fall asleep again. Here, these events are called SWJ - sleep-wake junk. They are not indicative of sleep apnea. There is a good chance you awakened for a short time and fell back to sleep without having a memory of the awakening.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by musculus » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:04 pm

pinguin420 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:34 pm
musculus wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:16 pm
need to zoom in further at where the inhalation volume has lots of variations. for example, dig into the flow chart around 1:50 AM.
Like this?data 2.png
Yes, better if zoomed further :)

I see signs of subtle flow limitation just 24 second (one unit is 12 sec) before 1:50:00.

How do you feel with CPAP? any improvement? how about leaks?

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:19 pm

musculus wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:04 pm
I see signs of subtle flow limitation just 24 second (one unit is 12 sec) before 1:50:00.
Pinguin seems to still be awake. The waveforms would not be of any significance.

Let's see what happens with min 4/max 12 before trying to raise any concerns about data.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by D.H. » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:07 am

This is only the data from three hours. You said you slept another four, but I don't know if you had issues then.

Also, even if the last four hours asre similar to the first three, seven hours one night is not going to erase a chronic sleep deprivation! That will happen over time.

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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by Matt00926 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:10 am

Do you have a recording pulse oximeter? While it's not definitive, you could wear it at night with no PAP equipment. if you did indeed see abnormal data as a result it would be reasonable to suspect sleep-disordered breathing. Of course, a normal pulse ox recording does not rule anything out, but it's one helpful piece of data. Note: if you don't have a pulse oximeter, don't run out and buy one on account of my post :mrgreen:.
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Re: Still tired, I have data.

Post by library lady » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:52 pm

I'm still tired, but in the 5 years since I was diagnosed with OSA, I have been sleeping better and don't get up as often during the night. I do have fibromyalgia so that complicates things in the "tired" department. The pulse oximeter will help you get a handle on whether you might have OSA. The only way to find out if you do or don't have it, is with a sleep study.

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