OT - Net Neutrality

[Goofproof]

There is little on the internet I have to have except Google, and they are making a chip for me to insert into my brain, then I will know everything too. Jim

[Grace~~~]

Who needs Twitter, if I want to talk with the president, I just call him up. Jim

If the phone line is busy, I call Putin's office and have him hang up.

Do you think twitter will ban President Trump?

Do you think he would just immediately make new account name?

[andrasnm]

A good night of sleep

Why the hell am I getting into this argument? 49 is a SF liberal whose city is overrun by the homeless and a robot is needed to scare them to their senses and they let a murderer go free (who just happened to be an illegal immigrant), so we need misdirection and stir up the pot a little (politically speaking). Next election this f'ing subject will come back and the pendulum will swing to restore this regulation.

Uhhh .... cuz you chose to get into an argument?

From your argument I take it that you don't like arguments, San Francisco, liberals, homeless, robots, murderers, illegal immigrants, and politically stirred pots?

So what do you like?

BTW - I have no skin in the pot.

[Jasba64]

Net neutrality first appeared by the Obama administration in 2015. Prior to that, we didn't have it. Did you pay for internet then? No, so why do you think you will now?

[AirPump]

For anyone who does not want to submit to Twitter's big brother censorship .... there is an alternative!
https://gab.ai/

#twitterpocalypse
Twitter’s strict new enforcement rules will be going live on December 18th. Twitter will be judging user behavior both on and OFF of their website. This means that if you visit another website that they don’t like or show “support” for groups they don’t like, you can get banned.

Stalker -
Glad to see that you get the importance of alternatives to Twitter (a content provider) when it comes to censorship you don't like. Unfortunately, for those of us with only one choice of an ISP (our "dumb pipe" to connect us to the web), we have no alternative when that dumb pipe vendor is now permitted to censor where its customers (heavily taxed serfs) can go. Who benefits? Certainly not the American consumer.

[DreamStalker]

For anyone who does not want to submit to Twitter's big brother censorship .... there is an alternative!
https://gab.ai/

#twitterpocalypse
Twitter’s strict new enforcement rules will be going live on December 18th. Twitter will be judging user behavior both on and OFF of their website. This means that if you visit another website that they don’t like or show “support” for groups they don’t like, you can get banned.

Stalker -
Glad to see that you get the importance of alternatives to Twitter (a content provider) when it comes to censorship you don't like. Unfortunately, for those of us with only one choice of an ISP (our "dumb pipe" to connect us to the web), we have no alternative when that dumb pipe vendor is now permitted to censor where its customers (heavily taxed serfs) can go. Who benefits? Certainly not the American consumer.

Air -
Glad to see that you get the idea that an alternative to Twitter(monopolistic content provider) easily became manifest when the twits thought they could censor without repercussions. https://gab.ai/ only emerged after they saw that people wanted an alternative.

Same is true for ISPs. I live in a city with a population about the size of San Jose, CA ... or a population size between 10th and 15th in the nation and I just did a search for ISP providers for my zip code here - https://broadbandnow.com/
Results:
3 cable line providers
2 DSL line providers
3 fiber line providers
5 fixed wireless providers
2 satellite providers

Prices ranged from $30 for 50 mbps to $150 for 10 mbps and my best deal is $45 for 100 mbps.

Create a need for alternative service and it will be manifest.

Now what need do you have for creating so much FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt)?

As for heavily taxed serfs .... why the heck did it take you so long to figure that out? The 16th Amendment to the US Constitution created both the US Federal Reserve and the IRS for the banksters to fleece the people way back in 1913 ... and they have stolen about 95% of the US Dollar's value in the 100 years of those two monopolistic banking cartels. Now those are true government supported monopolies created through government regulation. Cry about that and I will cry along with you because we can't create a need for an alternative to something controlled by our corrupt government (regardless of political party).

Who benefits? The corporations always benefit and the only way to change that is to remove their SCOTUS illegally given "natural person" status and return them back to previous "chartered" status where corporations had to prove that they provided a benefit to society in order to maintain their charter.

[RonS]

I have always paid more (or less) for my own organization's website to be hosted on a faster/slower computer, with a faster/slower NIC to the backbone.

I have always paid a very low price for my internet connection at home because I had no need for speed beyond my first ("holy shit amazing") 5Mbps FiOS connection, over the years they have raised me up to 60, I don't think they can provision it slower for some corporate reason, I'm sure.

I don't wanna pay for someone else's need for speed, their need to have their 4k high definition porn downloads run at the same speed and priority as some remote robotic neurosurgery interface, or traffic control or whatever the future brings.

I Iived through the days when Netflix was 42% of all internet traffic, when ISPs couldn't slow down traffic by stateful packet inspection, when all you got at AOL was a busy signal because people were unexpectedly showing up in numbers and staying online forever.

Business fixed these issues and fixed them fast because they did NOT have government oversight and regulation to deal with.

Google and Facebook and Netflix don't want the risk they'll have to pay more for the nearly free access they get to the web. I don't blame them, I'd do the same if I was in their business to try to block future competition. But don't mistake their selfishness for altruism. It's like cabbies telling you how much they need regulation and how the people need protection from Uber.

[RonS]

For those worried that this website will be affected by net neutrality... This website consumes so little bandwidth it doesn't even register on anyone's radar. Don't worry.

The argument about speed is about sites that transfer enormously large amounts of data, like Netflix, where a single movie downloaded by a single customer might consume as much bandwidth as this site uses in a week for everything. Give or take.

Think Google and Facebook and Amazon and Netflix and Hulu and Walmart .

The cost of the infrastructure of the internet should be borne by the companies that use so much data that they require the net's capacities to be increased. Like those companies above. They should have to charge their users the costs of making a huge internet. Not me and my dinky site or Johnny and this tiny insignificant to everyone else but important to us site.