Groundhogs Day - anyone else?

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Groundhogs Day - anyone else?

Post by Rainmom17 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:30 pm

So, I've had this thing the past couple of years that no doctor has been able to explain. Now that I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea, I wonder if that could be the cause. I'd be curious to find out if anyone experiences this.
Mornings are awful. The moment I wake up is kind of okay, but a couple of seconds later it's just grim. Exhausted, anxious, unsatisfied from sleep.
I spend the day kind of in a stupor, with moments of energy here and there.
Then, sometimes as early as 3:00 or 4:00, or at least reliably about an hour after dinner, I feel really good. I may still be tired, but I feel so much calmer and more positive in the evenings. Like all is okay in the world. I don't have that feeling much in the daytime, but it is almost every evening/night. So, when I lie down to go to sleep, I think that maybe I've overcome my fatigue, weariness, and anxiety. But sure enough, once I wake up in the morning, all that calm good feeling is gone and it's back to the daily energy struggle. Just like the guy in Groundhog's Day.
Is there anyone out there who experiences anything like this? Could be that it has nothing to do with sleep apnea. (My daughter is a teen and this pretty much describes her. So maybe I've just reverted back to adolescence.)

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Post by WearyOne » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:36 pm

Yep, that's me. I would say I feel horrible every morning. Sometimes it's just really bad, but right now I'm in a "horrible" stage. I'm much better at night. Not completely "normal" but definitely better. Next morning, same thing. Feel horrible. Zero energy. Extreme fatigue. I'm going down a list of things to see if I can make any improvement in anything that might help (not just xPAP stuff). I've been like since before xPAP. Only before xPAP I was horrible x 2 or 3 every morning. As someone here said there really are different degrees of "horrible," and she's right.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:39 pm

Retiring helped.

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Post by Pap-Daddy » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:10 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Retiring helped.
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Post by Rainmom17 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:18 pm

Good to know I have retirement to look forward to! Still quite a few years off.

I mean, I don't expect to ever become a morning person because I've never been one. But I do remember that they don't need to feel quite this crummy!

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Post by HoseCrusher » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Hormone swings can do things like that. Have you ever checked your blood sugar levels throughout the day?

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Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:43 pm

xxyzx wrote: . . do an IHT to see if you have apnea
. . .
She was ALREADY DIAGNOSED WITH APNEA!
(Sigh, reading comprehension is the tenth thing to go . . . )
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Post by nicholasjh » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:52 pm

After being on the machine for a while I would still get a lot of arousals, and I think it's because my body is still reacting to what it was like to being on the edge of death all night. Valerian (by itself, I don't suggest it in combination with other sleep aids (even Melatonin)) seems to have done wonders for me, and I think it's because it helps to calm me at night. My body got into the pattern of night time being a survival struggle and I believe it was having echo's of that even with the apnea therapy.

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Post by D.H. » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:09 am

What the OP described sounds very much like Sleep Disordered breathing. Of course, a good overnight sleep test looks for other sleep disorders as well. Sleep Disordered Breathing (a more inclusive term than "Sleep Apnea") is, by far, the most common sleep disorder.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:42 am

D.H. wrote:What the OP described sounds very much like Sleep Disordered breathing. Of course, a good overnight sleep test looks for other sleep disorders as well. Sleep Disordered Breathing (a more inclusive term than "Sleep Apnea") is, by far, the most common sleep disorder.
Again, she HAD a sleep study!
viewtopic/t156230/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 7#p1187477
Her doc will be available to discuss results in a couple of weeks.
She would like to know more before that!

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Post by Okie bipap » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:47 am

Why bother to read the entire thread when you can read one entry and react to it? This way, it is easier to disrail a thread.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:55 am

Apparently, it is contagious . . .

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Post by Rainmom17 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:56 am

Yes, thank you Chunkyfrog, I did indeed have a sleep study!! And I've been on cpap for 3 weeks.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:42 pm

I may still be tired, but I feel so much calmer and more positive in the evenings. Like all is okay in the world. I don't have that feeling much in the daytime, but it is almost every evening/night. So, when I lie down to go to sleep, I think that maybe I've overcome my fatigue, weariness, and anxiety. But sure enough, once I wake up in the morning, all that calm good feeling is gone and it's back to the daily energy struggle.
This anxious morning/calm afternoon routine sounds exactly like the side effects of sleep apnea.

When you are having apneas at night, your body produces excess levels of cortisol (fight-or-flight hormones). When you awaken, the cortisol is making you very anxious. As the day goes on, your cortisol levels begin to normalize, and you become less anxious or even calm.

The solution, of course, is CPAP.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:56 pm

Before cpap, I did not need caffeine in the mornings, but after lunch, oh, brother!
I could be found at my desk, struggling to remain conscious, or hiding in the ladies room--
Trying for a 5 minute power nap on the throne.

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