dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by TASmart » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:41 pm

I'd shut up and use it, you need the sleep
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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by palerider » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:37 pm

xxyzx wrote:what would you do ?
If I were you, I'd sit down, and wonder "why does everybody hate me?".

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by kteague » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:18 am

While that number of hours doesn't seem very significant on its own, my question is more about the records of this machine and at what point its warranty began. If the machine went on record when issued to someone else, how long ago was that, and what is your manufacturer and DME's commitment to this machine? If it is warranteed as if new, I personally wouldn't let those hours cause me any grief, unless it's just on principle. If the machine is a rental only and never yours to own, then it is a non-issue.

Edit: You asked "What would you do?" I would call the DME and say, "This machine has 405 usage hours on it. Please explain that." Then take it from there. I personally would not start trying to barter for things to offset the bit of lost use. I would stick to the warranty question as the primary issue and maybe try to discern if there was intentional deception and if so, where. But really, if the machine is covered as new, then I would let it go. Completely. In the big picture, it's a distraction and why let it mar your experience with this hard fought machine.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Guest » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:43 am

that is a very funny question .. where is your brilliant engeneering?

what possibilities are there, if you get an slightly used machine?
1. the first owner died and does not need this device any longer (which would be a nearly total fail for an ASV)
2. the 1st owner got cured with that device (than please send it to us after you get cured too) - unlikely scenerio
3. the 1st owner failed on that machine! (let it be because it is a libtard device, the owner was a libtard and couldn't get it to work OR: the machine is simply broken!)

Or are there any other reasons (in your mind!) that someone would return a shiny (and so much adored by you) device?

makes me think ..
(but I believe palerider already nailed it)

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by klv329 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:16 am

Nu 2 U is what the DME meant.

What year is it? I wouldn't take a 2015 if it is supposed to be new.

Could be broken. Make sure sure it follows your breathing seamlessly. Try breathing in and out quickly few times and see if it contradicts your breathing.

For me, one sign of a malfunctioning ASV machine was severe aerophagia when I didn't have it anywhere near that bad before. Startled wake-ups that had never occurred before was another sign, for me.

It's always good to have another machine to compare it to.

Good luck. Hopefully your DME isn't on this board.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by ajack » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:45 am

palerider wrote:
xxyzx wrote:what would you do ?
If I were you, I'd sit down, and wonder "why does everybody hate me?".
yep, you don't have to be paranoid to think everyone hates you, sometimes it's true.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Cardsfan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:02 am

Take it back. Next time, ask to see the run hours BEFORE you accept delivery.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:09 am

Look for libtard cooties.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by TASmart » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:28 am

The big question is how did it work to treat the OP centrals?
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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by VinnieBarbarino » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:18 pm

xxyzx wrote:i am wondering if it is defective
Keep going! I've almost got a full row on Midnight Strangler's bingo card.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by GTOJim » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:23 pm

Do DME's lie, heck yes. When I picked up my first machine and mask, I was told the mask could not be returned if opened. Get home, mask already opened, missing parts, impossible to use. Contact DME, told nothing they can do, it's how the mask comes from the factory. I was stuck with them for ten years, it never got any better.

Not long before I was able to switch DME's I tried to exchange a new mask, Velcro would not stick together. Tighten one side the other side pops apart, tighten the second side, first side pops apart. DME takes the mask, returns 10 minutes later, tested mask, nothing wrong, will not exchange it. One hour driving, one hour waiting for my turn to speak with someone and I still have an unused mask, impossible to use in it's current state. Not the worst example but thankfully one of the last.

Good luck with your decision, hopefully your DME is one of the good ones.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:28 pm

xxyzx wrote:could be broken. not following my breathing at all.
Doubt it is broken. We tried to tell you that these machines don't adapt to you nearly like you thought it would ....you have to adapt to them.
Yes it "learns" to auto adjust the back up rate but that's a fluid learning.
That said, there are some tweaks maybe that could make things more in tune with your own breathing rhythm.

Look on the bottom (or side) of the blower for the model number. The potential tweaks will depend on the model number.
If it is the S9 model...it should be a 5 digit number starting with 36 I think.
If it is the AirCurve 10 model I don't remember their serial numbers off hand.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Doublev » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:01 pm

alphabet boy, do not give out the full serial number and device number! with your serial number and device number I can attach your Aircurve to myAir account and get all your statistics.. LOL

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Doublev » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:04 pm

The filters saying S9 is fine.. that is what I get when I buy replacements. Although I did note the original S10 filter seemed to be of better quality and thickness.

So off topic, but anyone know where I can someone buy *real* S10 filters?

So I think you are OK there.

The S9 manual is confusing to me, though.. but hey it is a used unit.

So you got the S10, the right filters (even though they say S9) and some schmuck put in the wrong manual.

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Re: dme said it was new . meter says 405 hours usage on machine

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:12 pm

You have an AirCurve 10 ASV. No way to turn a S9 into the AirCurve. Totally different packaging for one thing but the modes offered and the algorithm in each is the same as my S9 36037 model. The AirCurve does have some additional comfort options that the S9 doesn't have.

You just happened to get a machine that was used by someone else for a short period of time. Yeah, they lied to you about it being new but it's not like it had 4,000 hours on it.

Use the machine while awake and watching TV or reading a book for an hour or so and see if you get more comfortable with the rhythm.
If not get the manual and read up on the minor tweaks available to alter the rhythm just a bit. The ResMed doesn't have as many potential little tweaks as the Respironics equivalent but most of the time those aren't needed.
I have owned both and actually like the ResMed a little better but it is a bit more "do it my way" than the Respironics. Once you get used to it (and you will) it's not that big of a deal.

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