Disappointed with Respironics M Series

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:33 pm

I doubt he'll log in, Snoredog. He wouldn't want everyone to know he's so predictable.

Mile High Sleeper · Post by **Mile High Sleeper** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:20 pm

I think you need to be invited by Johnny Goodman to write a product review, but I'm not sure. Or maybe you write one and it gets picked up by cpaptalk.com. Johnny or the forum administrator or old timers would know.

Rested Gal, thanks for the plug. I'm still writing articles for my sleep apnea blog
http://smart-sleep-apnea.blogspot.com (with or without the www)
on a number of CPAP subjects, but there are certainly gaps in my knowledge and lots of CPAP related topics. Basically, I've been the scribe for the voice of a lot of cpaptalkers. I hope someday to get a few select, well written and knowledgeable articles from others, just like Mike Moran and Perry currently have an article. Interested writers, PM me if you want to talk more about this.

JeffroDoe · Post by **JeffroDoe** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:32 pm

kewl, Mile High Sleeper. I appreciate the info. I'd be honored to provide any info or reviews you might request. I'll submit something to you. We'll see how it works out.

throbgod13 · Post by **throbgod13** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:49 pm

i was just sent a Remstar M-Series 100M..

is this is CPAP, or BiPAP?? the reason that i ask is that it actually says "BiPAP" on the label on the bottom of the pump..

it was set to 18.0cm.. but, during the first night of use, i experienced Central Apena.. i noticed this during interrupted sleep.. it was just too hard to breathe out.. after 2 days, i actually feel worse than i did before..

i've found out how to get to program it, and reset the pressure to 12.5, which is manageable in exhaling.. i feel better at this pressure, but it's still somewhat hard to exhale..

is there a setting that i could control the EPAP?? i didn't notice a setting for that.. or it wasn't blatantly labeled..

any help would be great..

and i'd like to add, that it is noisy.. it's like a "Darth Vader" wheeze.. it doesn't keep me up.. i have tinnitus, i need masking noise to sleep.. but it is loud enough that i'm aware that it's there..

i'm concerned, this is my first CPAP/BiPAP..

help me out, if i really got stuck with a POS..

thanks..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:06 am

I don't think any CPAP'er should be attacked for posting their opinions. But when some one identifies themself as a DME specialist, The opinions go to the next level and they open themselves to attack, just as a manufacturer opens themselves to attack by producing the machine, or the Junk, depending on who you talk to. This is a CPAP forum, not a DME forum, and most of us are here because we have been hosed by our DME's by overcharging and under delivering. So it is not a surprise to me that JeffroDoe's review wasn't received with glowing respect by all. No Doubt he is a DME specialist, as evidenced by his opinion of the auto. Not his fault, this has been drilled into him since day one by his employer (Autos cost us more but we can't charge insurance any more. Harder to get pt's back for re-titration when they can do it themselves, etc.) They did such a good job that he had the opportunity to have an auto for free and he turned it down. Never mind that the auto can be used as a straight CPAP, that it is just nice to have in case you need it. No point in having the data screen in case you ever want to look at it. The only thing that matters is how you feel. Just the kind of BS many of us were pedaled by our Dr's and DME's to discourage us from taking control of our treatment. It would be like working at a car dealership and being given a car and you can choose with air conditioning or without. I guess I'd choose without, because air conditioning is just overused, especially in the warmer climates. Whatever. I feel bad for people like NY nurse33 who just got an auto M and really researched and checked it out and this was so important to her, and then gets the wind taken out of her sails by this post. Plenty of baloney in his post Melissa, believe me. Like the part about vibrating so much that the cord comes out. Never heard that before. I have had my M for 3 months and it hasn't moved at all, no inkling of any vibration. And all these humidifier problems? My DME put a little sticker on the OUTSIDE of the machine to remind not to move with water in it. I personally like the fact that the humidifier is hidden and I like the way it looks on my night stand. An I like the fact that I have never had any problems with it. I like the fact that it DOSE NOT vibrate. I think Melissa made a fine choice and if there is any apologizing to be done, it should be from jeffroDoe for giving a brutal and inaccurate review of the M, under the cover of his expertise as a DME specialist. Fortunately, I think most of us see through it. It is interesting he comes out of the woodwork to trash the M in a forum that highly regards Respironics products, just days after Resmed implements its new pricing policy. Very interesting indeed.[/i]

NyNurse33 · Post by **NyNurse33** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:03 am

No worries, guest, I highly respect my own opinions on products based on actual use of it and so far no complaints about noise, bulkiness, hidden humidifier (plus I don't see how I would ever forget there is water in there, if I went to move it), etc. I still firmly believe that auto is the way to go, based on my own experience. Here I was titrated @ 10 by the lab, spent the last 2 months on 10 and now this whole week, never even get close to 10!! That itself says alot about alot of things.

SelfSeeker · Post by **SelfSeeker** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:03 am

throbgod13

Here is a list of resrionics products. They make several BiPaps.

http://global.respironics.com/ProductGroups.asp

I do not know much about Bi-level machines other then that it has an inhale and an exhale pressure. Some of them also have an extra relief help on exhale called Biflex.

Maybe someone who has more info can help you. Also you make make a new topic so your question does not get lost in this topic.

JeffroDoe · Post by **JeffroDoe** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:56 am

Guest...
I never said that the *cord* comes unplugged. I said that the unit unplugs itself....which it does. I cannot count how many times in the middle of the night when I had the emergency phone....that I had to instruct a pt on how to slide the flow generator back into place because it had worked its way out of the fully engaged position and would not power up. I'm just guessing that it is from vibration. The machine doesn't have any fingers with which to push the flow generator out of place, so what else could cause it? Voodoo?

On this very page there is a post from someone complaining about how loud the M series is, so how can you possibly feel justified in attacking my opinion when it should be obvious that my observations were accurate?

I really like Respironics. I recommend their Remstar Plus w/Cflex all the time, I've used their bipaps, which I feel are great machines. For the first year and a half of my cpap usage, all I used were Respironics masks. My evaluation was ONLY about the M series, and my observation of its shortcomings.

Based upon what I have seen myself and talked to patients about and heard from other DME specialists, it's pretty much unanymous that this machine needed a bit more design thought put into it before being released. Why that would personally insult or hurt the feelings of an end consumer is beyond me. Nuff sed.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:29 am

I really like Respironics. I recommend their Remstar Plus w/Cflex all the time,

I'll bet you do. Wouldn't want the patient to know what's going on with his therapy...

CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:43 am

Melissa, your statement:

I highly respect my own opinions...

really made me laugh! Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not being disrespectful (on the contrary, I respect you quite a bit!) but just the way you said it was funny! I thought, I highly respect MY opinions, too!

I'm still giggling. Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tightly today.

NyNurse33 · Post by **NyNurse33** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:31 pm

No problem college girl...it was meant to get a laugh! Glad it did.

Wulfman · Post by **Wulfman** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:43 pm

Anonymous wrote:
I really like Respironics. I recommend their Remstar Plus w/Cflex all the time,
I'll bet you do. Wouldn't want the patient to know what's going on with his therapy...

Not to mention the profit margins are much, much better than on a higher-end machine (that has recording capabilities).

Den

byront · Post by **byront** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:28 pm

[quote="Anonymous"]I don't think any CPAP'er should be attacked for posting their opinions. But when some one identifies themself as a DME specialist, The opinions go to the next level and they open themselves to attack, just as a manufacturer opens themselves to attack by producing the machine, or the Junk, depending on who you talk to. This is a CPAP forum, not a DME forum, and most of us are here because we have been hosed by our DME's by overcharging and under delivering. So it is not a surprise to me that JeffroDoe's review wasn't received with glowing respect by all. No Doubt he is a DME specialist, as evidenced by his opinion of the auto. Not his fault, this has been drilled into him since day one by his employer (Autos cost us more but we can't charge insurance any more. Harder to get pt's back for re-titration when they can do it themselves, etc.) They did such a good job that he had the opportunity to have an auto for free and he turned it down. Never mind that the auto can be used as a straight CPAP, that it is just nice to have in case you need it. No point in having the data screen in case you ever want to look at it. The only thing that matters is how you feel. Just the kind of BS many of us were pedaled by our Dr's and DME's to discourage us from taking control of our treatment. It would be like working at a car dealership and being given a car and you can choose with air conditioning or without. I guess I'd choose without, because air conditioning is just overused, especially in the warmer climates. Whatever. I feel bad for people like NY nurse33 who just got an auto M and really researched and checked it out and this was so important to her, and then gets the wind taken out of her sails by this post. Plenty of baloney in his post Melissa, believe me. Like the part about vibrating so much that the cord comes out. Never heard that before. I have had my M for 3 months and it hasn't moved at all, no inkling of any vibration. And all these humidifier problems? My DME put a little sticker on the OUTSIDE of the machine to remind not to move with water in it. I personally like the fact that the humidifier is hidden and I like the way it looks on my night stand. An I like the fact that I have never had any problems with it. I like the fact that it DOSE NOT vibrate. I think Melissa made a fine choice and if there is any apologizing to be done, it should be from jeffroDoe for giving a brutal and inaccurate review of the M, under the cover of his expertise as a DME specialist. Fortunately, I think most of us see through it. It is interesting he comes out of the woodwork to trash the M in a forum that highly regards Respironics products, just days after Resmed implements its new pricing policy. Very interesting indeed.[/i]

NyNurse33 · Post by **NyNurse33** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:33 pm

Byron--I'm interested in your statements about your humidity setting. You can get by on 2 or 3 without rainout....LUCKY!! I still get it with 1. How cool does it get in your house? Do you have a hose cover? Thanks.

onefromb5 · Post by **onefromb5** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:21 pm

I just started my CPAP therapy i am using the remstar m pro with humidifier,set on 2. May have to increase it to 3 tonight. Didnt turn on the House heat yet. Here in PA its not needed YET,, the comfort gel mask. Friday i slept with it for a few hrs. felt fine when i woke up. sat slept for 6 hrs with it on took some time to get adj to it. began by using the rampup feature, nice. will see what tomorrow brings.

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