Bruxism and sleep apneia

[Novello1234]

Sorry typing this on my phone and did not to spell
Check sorry for the typos

[palerider]

Sorry typing this on my phone and did not to spell
Check sorry for the typos

you can still make an effort to correct your typos. sometimes it's just a guessing game to try and figure out what you're saying.

[Novello1234]

My apologies again I was typing with my phone and I pressed sent before I was able to correct it again my apologies . Am I able to go back to edit it . I tried but was not able to.

[palerider]

My apologies again I was typing with my phone and I pressed sent before I was able to correct it again my apologies . Am I able to go back to edit it . I tried but was not able to.

yes, that's what the 'edit' button is for.

[beet]

I wore a bruxism dental appliance for many years before starting CPAP.

I discovered that keeping my lips closed inhibits the bruxism (grinding), and that using a nasal CPAP mask almost immediately trained me to keep my lips closed (even thought I always had been a mouth breather due to nasal congestion).

[Julie]

How would wearing a nasal mask train anyone to keep their mouth closed?

[beet]

How would wearing a nasal mask train anyone to keep their mouth closed?

If you open your mouth while wearing a nasal mask, all the air is pumped through your mouth, which is forceful and uncomfortable enough that most users intuitively habituate to keeping their mouths closed.

When I started CPAP, I thought I needed a full face mask because I was a mouth breather and had nasal congestion due to swollen turbinates. The 3 full face masks I tried injured the bridge of my nose so severely that I decided to try a nasal pillow mask. Much to my surprise, I immediately learned to keep my mouth closed.

[Julie]

"which is forceful and uncomfortable enough that most users intuitively habituate to keeping their mouths closed."

Never heard such nonsense in my life!

[beet]

Never heard such nonsense in my life!

I merely reported my experience. Do you speak from experience or conjecture? Would you like to explain your reasoning and the facts upon which it is based instead of a quick insult that merely states a conclusion?

Incidentally, I don’t know what other forums you participate in, but I've never encountered discourtesy such as yours in this one. Forums can quickly go downhill when members start attacking each others' views. We're all trying to help each other with a difficult regimen.

[Goofproof]

Never heard such nonsense in my life!

I merely reported my experience. Do you speak from experience or conjecture? Would you like to explain your reasoning and the facts upon which it is based instead of a quick insult that merely states a conclusion?

Incidentally, I don’t know what other forums you participate in, but I've never encountered discourtesy such as yours in this one. Forums can quickly go downhill when members start attacking each others' views. We're all trying to help each other with a difficult regimen.

Mouth breathing is at worse when in deep sleep, you are not aware of it then, I smell B.S. Maybe those other forums won't call you on the spreading but here we will, don't trample our Flowers! Jim

[Novello1234]

Thank you and how long does it take for grinding to disappear my apnea is much lower now since I am using cpap so how long does it take I thought it would stop right away I had a bad night I think with grinding last night and I had my cpap on. All night I used new mask on last night I am on cpap one week only and also my sleep is still poorly

The grinding may or may not get any better.

In my case, my TMJ problems, including teeth grinding got substantially worse during the first 8-9 months of PAPing. And my primary care dentist wound up referring me to a TMJ specialist after I chewed through a guard that was less than a year old and substantially damaged the replacement guard in less than 2 months. The TMJ specialist designed a treatment program designed to first heal my TMJs and then keep the grinding under control. It took several weeks of a "no chew" diet combined with 24/7 wearing of a guard to allow my TMJs to actually heal from the years of damage. It took several more months to "wean" me to wearing the guard only at night, and along the way I chewed through another guard or two. But with a lot of help from the TMJ specialist, we finally got it all sorted out.

Please note: My TMJ specialist describes me as "an interesting patient" because of how long it took him to figure out how to craft a custom night guard that did not trigger additional grinding. But once he got it figured out and made me a guard that doesn't trigger the additional grinding, the relief from the TMJ problems was almost immediate.

Hi what kind of guard do you have? Do you have the name or type please ? when you did grind did your teeth hurt or were they sore?
I did not wear my guard for two days then last night I wore I it feels worse They are going to make me a new guard because this one is too tight for me . My apnea is under control.

[Julie]

But you didn't just report your experience, you stated that MOST users habituate..... And that's just not true. Do you want things sugar coated like a child or what? I 'reported' from being on the forum a long time and seeing hundreds of people struggle with mouth breathing... and only a very few learning (not 'habituating') to keep their mouths closed by placing their tongues against the back of their teeth - and crossing their fingers hoping it worked even when they were asleep.

[Novello1234]

Julie who are you referring to. I was responding to a post that she indicated using a night guard

[Julie]

The poster who for some reason calls himself Beet.

[palerider]

Julie who are you referring to. I was responding to a post that she indicated using a night guard

it would be less confusing if Julie would learn to use the 'quote' button....