Lucyhere wrote:I know and agree with you. Take a look back and see where it started.WearyOne wrote:Have no idea why anyone would have a problem with the original post. Really baffling.
Dear, dear Sonnyboy... have a read.
Lucyhere wrote:I know and agree with you. Take a look back and see where it started.WearyOne wrote:Have no idea why anyone would have a problem with the original post. Really baffling.
Yes, you certainly are! You said this more than once.LSAT wrote:+1Sheriff Buford wrote:This is exactly what ran the Pug off. All our days are numbered here. To wish she would hang around and listen to this garbage is very selfish. It is what it is.
Den, too.
Sheriff
All the posts are from women arguing with each other. They can never say something in one post and then leave it alone.
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+ a millionStormynights wrote: (part)
I have read some say they are using tough love when telling someone off. I have had to use tough love at times and I am sure all mothers have had to do that. I never had to be abusive in my words to do that. You can lovingly say you are grounded or whatever without making them feel like running away. There is no excuse for being abusive to anyone that I can see.
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For that I am going to throw lightning bolts at your head.LSAT wrote:+1Sheriff Buford wrote:This is exactly what ran the Pug off. All our days are numbered here. To wish she would hang around and listen to this garbage is very selfish. It is what it is.
Den, too.
Sheriff
All the posts are from women arguing with each other. They can never say something in one post and then leave it alone.
(Boy...am I in trouble now)
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+ a million and 1WearyOne wrote:+ a millionStormynights wrote: (part)
I have read some say they are using tough love when telling someone off. I have had to use tough love at times and I am sure all mothers have had to do that. I never had to be abusive in my words to do that. You can lovingly say you are grounded or whatever without making them feel like running away. There is no excuse for being abusive to anyone that I can see.
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Stormynights wrote:The worse is when someone starts being cruel and more that join and it becomes a gang of bullies.
And then the non-bullies get called trolls, and heaven forbid you stick up for someone who is getting bullied.Lucyhere wrote:Stormynights wrote:The worse is when someone starts being cruel and more that join and it becomes a gang of bullies.
You just described to a *T* what happens here. One bully quickly becomes two, then three, then ? ... never understood why a person would join forces with the bully, instead of with so many folks who are knowledgeable and not condescending.
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I understand WHY she was upset. I agree that Black Spinner can be rude sometimes. But it seems a bit hypocritical to publicly chastise somebody for being rude or not compassionate, while at the same time telling the person that they are a miserable human being.Michelle-OH wrote:I have to disagree that Lucy is 'attacking' BlackSpinner for BEING compassionate. I believe she is upset because BlackSpinner seems to have a problem with anyone who SHOWS compassion, or coddles people, and especially when they are sympathetic to a new person.zoocrewphoto wrote:Lucyhere wrote:
BlackS... You're one hell of a sad sack lady. What a miserable human being you are! When someone has NO compassion and gets all bent out of shape because some of us do, it says a lot about the person... you are!
Please do not attack somebody for being compassionate while insulting them. That is not compassionate at all, and it just makes things worse. Comments like these are why I believe some of the worst posts are coming from the people who claim to be helping. All it does is escalate the problem.
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Zoo -zoocrewphoto wrote:I understand WHY she was upset. I agree that Black Spinner can be rude sometimes. But it seems a bit hypocritical to publicly chastise somebody for being rude or not compassionate, while at the same time telling the person that they are a miserable human being.Michelle-OH wrote:I have to disagree that Lucy is 'attacking' BlackSpinner for BEING compassionate. I believe she is upset because BlackSpinner seems to have a problem with anyone who SHOWS compassion, or coddles people, and especially when they are sympathetic to a new person.zoocrewphoto wrote:Lucyhere wrote:
BlackS... You're one hell of a sad sack lady. What a miserable human being you are! When someone has NO compassion and gets all bent out of shape because some of us do, it says a lot about the person... you are!
Please do not attack somebody for being compassionate while insulting them. That is not compassionate at all, and it just makes things worse. Comments like these are why I believe some of the worst posts are coming from the people who claim to be helping. All it does is escalate the problem.
She can be upset without being rude. If people argued their case instead of flinging insults, the forum would be a much better place. As you can see, it is quite possible to disagree with somebody without calling them names.
YOu have stated your whole argument without insulting anyone. Luce did NOT do that. She called her a miserable human being and sad sack lady. I'm sorry that you feel that this is somehow mot insulting. It was personal and insulting. I have never said that what Blackspinner said was correct. I was only stating that was Lucy said was just as wrong. And this is the problem. The people who feel the need to bring up how bad somebody is, often say it in a very mean way,sometimes worse the person they think they are correcting. I have seen it with many of your posts. and especially Lucy's posts. I have tried to keep quiet on many of the topics, but I have seen it again and again. Luce has some very nasty posts, and I do not view her as a compassionate or helpful person. I see her egging it on. That may not be what she intends or what she sees in the mirror, but that is what I see when I read her posts.GettingBetter wrote:Zoo -zoocrewphoto wrote:I understand WHY she was upset. I agree that Black Spinner can be rude sometimes. But it seems a bit hypocritical to publicly chastise somebody for being rude or not compassionate, while at the same time telling the person that they are a miserable human being.Michelle-OH wrote:I have to disagree that Lucy is 'attacking' BlackSpinner for BEING compassionate. I believe she is upset because BlackSpinner seems to have a problem with anyone who SHOWS compassion, or coddles people, and especially when they are sympathetic to a new person.zoocrewphoto wrote:Lucyhere wrote:
BlackS... You're one hell of a sad sack lady. What a miserable human being you are! When someone has NO compassion and gets all bent out of shape because some of us do, it says a lot about the person... you are!
Please do not attack somebody for being compassionate while insulting them. That is not compassionate at all, and it just makes things worse. Comments like these are why I believe some of the worst posts are coming from the people who claim to be helping. All it does is escalate the problem.
She can be upset without being rude. If people argued their case instead of flinging insults, the forum would be a much better place. As you can see, it is quite possible to disagree with somebody without calling them names.
Black Spinner acted like a troll on this thread, in my opinion. It isn't rudeness on her part. I am not being hypocritical because I can derail a thread too; that simply makes me more of an expert, imho. BS threw out a conflict-bomb to derail the thread, plain and simple. My statements aren't chastising. I'm not name calling. It is a statement of fact regarding the evolution of this thread. Black Spinner made a comment as the what fourth or fifth post on this thread?, not as something about missing Pugsy - but a hastily thrown insult at others. The post made by Black Spinner had no value other than to create conflict. period.
Lucyhere is not being hypocritical and frankly I think that is an intellectually lazy argument on your part to throw that on her. One can always cry "hypocrite" in an argument. I think I've proven that is silly in an earlier post already.
Black Spinner is not a happy camper and it shows in her posts. Hurt people like to do hurtful things, so I have a modicum of compassion for her, but only a tiny bit. She is not compassionate. She is downright judgmental and therefore I don't have problems judging her right back. She does present herself as a non-caring and "sad sack" of a human being. I don't have a problem saying that because she does unto others; that does not make me a hypocrite. If she was looking for complements and sunshine, I think she would perhaps respond differently or be more compassionate.
Reading back on BS comments, it appears she used to actually provide advice and aid that didn't seem like sandpaper on a burn. She used to be more compassionate. Life does a lot to people and I can't say what changed that.
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