Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by CowFish » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:29 am

Dogjudge wrote:it's back to Sleepyhead and this forum
That was the best way for me. I have no complaints whatsoever about my sleep doc, but docs are in a poor position to get the best machine settings figured out and help you with the mask.

The person that sleeps every night in your bedroom beside the machine and under the mask is the best one to figure out what is actually going on and make it workable and effective. Surely you don't think a doctor is in a position to do this as well as you can?

Good luck.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by SunnyBeBe » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:56 pm

I've never thought about sending them a bill when I have to wait a long time past my appointment time. That's a great idea. I might just do it.
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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by tuzacat » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:48 pm

Dogjudge, I've had a lot of acupuncture in the past but not for sleep apnea. It actually can be very relaxing. It did not solve the health issues I went for but it did help them some.
The doctor with the God complex who keeps you waiting is something I am struggling with with my rheumatologist. Rarely, do I wait less than an hour. He double books. I have been waiting until I retired to start looking for a new doctor - retired two weeks ago - now I actually have to do something about this. It is hard to find a doctor you respect and trust.
Good luck sorting your sleep issues out!
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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by avi123 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:18 am

Dogjudge wrote:I'm FED UP with doctors who think that THEIR time is valuable and the patient's time doesn't mean anything.
STILL having sleep issues. About a week ago I got about an hour and a half sleep. Saturday night it was four hours. Last night it was five.
You have to make an appt. 3 months ahead of time with this guy. Luckily, I had one today, hoping that he'd finally fix the problem with the machine, or whatever the problem is.
Appt. is for 11:00. I get there at 10:45. No one in the waiting room. He's the only doctor in this office. At about 11:10, I get taken into a room where they take my vitals, etc. "The doctor will be in in a few minutes." 12:00 NO doctor.
I KNOW that I'm grumpy because I haven't gotten much sleep, but this is the way that it's been every time with this guy. Simply got fed up and walked out. They had me come back to pick up my machine and I filled out the forms for all of my records from this "god".
As an aside, I've had maybe six appointments over the last year with this guy, and it is ALWAYS the same.
Now, I just have to find another doctor.
Some times you just have to vent.

Have any of you ever tried acupuncture?
Why don't you name the doctor and his place so others don't get stuck like this with him?

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by Dogjudge » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:37 am

Naming the doctor?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If I did put up his name and practice name, doesn't that potentially make me liable for a lawsuit, i.e. slander, even if it is true.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by SewTired » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:40 am

Unlike a GP or most other specialists, a sleep doctor doesn't take emergencies. I learned that to my detriment. Even if the need is urgent. I think you did right to leave since this doc made a habit of lateness. Most other docs I've gone to are generally on time. If they are not, I have an ebook to read. I hope that you got up every 15 minutes to ask the receptionist to find out how long the doc will be?

There should be plenty of sleep docs in your area that take Medicare. It's the DMEs that are usually limited. If all else fails, call the medical school at the University of Chicago. The Univ. If Univ of Mn has a sleep clinic, so I have no doubt your uni has it. They will take Medicare.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by palerider » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:41 am

Dogjudge wrote:Naming the doctor?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If I did put up his name and practice name, doesn't that potentially make me liable for a lawsuit, i.e. slander, even if it is true.
you can be sued for anything.

however, the absolute defense against liable, is the truth. (slander is spoken, liable is written), it's only actionable liable/slander if it's a falsehood.

"this doctor is a crook", <- probably liable.

"this doctor did
  • " <- not liable.

    if I'm wrong, one of our lawyers will correct me, (I hope)

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by avi123 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Dogjudge wrote:Naming the doctor?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If I did put up his name and practice name, doesn't that potentially make me liable for a lawsuit, i.e. slander, even if it is true.
I would do so in a non blaming way.

Example:

My first sleep doc from Wake Internal Consultants said that he was not interested to look at my graphs and told me that I was free to go to another doc. So I switched to another sleep doc from Duke Medicine who was delighted to look at my data.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:01 pm

We just had a very similar experience. My hubby's recent CT scan showed an enlarged thyroid nodule,
but the ENT our doctor referred us to was not available for an entire MONTH! We 'pushed',
and the biopsy is this Wednesday--with someone else!

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by Heart Jumping » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:38 am

Cody86 wrote:professional acupuncturist!!
The term is an oxymoron, it's like looking for a "professional homeopathic" or a "professional anti-vaxxer". It's medieval hocus pocus that has been shown to be useless by every properly conducted study that has been performed on it, and I don't mean the ones coming out of China where is has cult like status. It always amazes me how people will give credence to something because it's "ancient". People might as well burn their money.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/re ... upuncture/

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by blownaway » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:12 am

What irks me even more is that first they keep you waiting in the waiting room, then call you and put you in an 8' closet and make you wait some more.

I have a vascular guy who has stood me up three times without even a phone call, AFTER I'D DRIVEN 70 MILES ROUND TRIP TO SEE HIM.

I made a last appt. with him and gave him some of his own medicine - I didn't show. When they called the day before to confirm, I cheerfully said sure, I'll be there.

Since then I always tell the receptionist that I will wait no more than 30 minutes, then I'll leave. You have to understand that this is a TACTIC with these people, they know what they're doing and they do it on purpose because they all behave this way. They have a goal of allotting no more than 8 minutes per patient. Then they spend another 7 minutes making notes and reviewing files so that comes to 4 patients per hour that they can see. Then count the number in their waiting room and its usually a lot more than than that. Like the airlines, they overbook whenever they can.

Where I live the Catholic Church has bought up ALL the hospitals (but one) and organized all the doctors into The Sacred Heart Medical Group. Its a Catholic Mafia. They force the doctors to rent their offices and hire their employees through them and use a central computer system. From Panama City to Pensacola you can't escape them except by travelling hundreds of miles to another major city. This is monopolistic business at its worst. When I got a botched hip replacement, no doctor in this area would see me. They circled the wagons to protect their own. I had to go to Cleveland Clinic to get it repaired at my expense 600 miles away.

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Re: Firing you doctor and acupuncture.

Post by 49er » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:31 am

I have since switched sleep doctors from the last one that kept me waiting a long time (hour to an hour and a half) to a current person who has never been more than about 15 to 20 minute late. Even better is unlike the previous doc, he is focused and and doesn't rush through the appointment. Last one was slightly over 30 minutes. He isn't perfect by any means but he tries very hard to do the best possible job he can for me and that is all I can ask. Happy I made the switch.

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