first night on vpap auto

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:05 am

I wouldn't sleep well with flow limitations like yours either. I very much like the way Mirage Quattro feels and fits, but I just have difficulties breathing through my nose with it. P10 does expand my nostrils and I can breathe through my nose very well but the mask alone is useless, unless I tape my mouth. Still struggling to find a tapeless solution: none of the oral appliances work.

UPDATE: What is weird, however, is that your flow limitations get worse as pressure increases, which reminds me of cathyf's case

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:58 am

I wonder if the flow limitations was the pillows.and congestion

Here is the flow limitation chart from the first night

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:54 pm

Greg Riddle wrote:I wonder if the flow limitations was the pillows.and congestion

Here is the flow limitation chart from the first night
Aah, this looks better. Though snoring is quite-quite significant. Can you zoom in on flow limitation chart? I want to see the flow curves. Just a guess, if your flow limitation gets worse with higher pressures, could it be because your exhalation gets obstructed more?

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:05 pm

I hope this view shows the info you need
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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:09 pm

Need some more zooming in on parts where FLs and snoring are present

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:22 pm

Here zoomed in until it stopped
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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:41 pm

hmm, and this is not your worst night, is it? did your doctor tell you anything about UARS?

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:48 pm

nope. I'm lucky to get anything out off therm. The allergy dr has been thinking about sending me back to ent. It's that something that ent should deal with

This was the good night

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:53 pm

Would uars explain why I was so good directly after nasal surgery and slowly been getting worse

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:03 pm

Greg Riddle wrote:Would uars explain why I was so good directly after nasal surgery and slowly been getting worse
I am almost sure. Facts:
1. a low AHI;
2. a bad sleep in general;
3. known nasal congestions;
4. pronounced flow limitations;

Welcome to the club of UARSers.

Question to everyone:
a UARS suspect. Flow limitations can get worse with pressure increase (am I reading the charts properly?). Shouldn't EPAPmin be lowered and PS should be increased to keep IPAP higher (over 20)? Since such pressure changes (acyclic) can be sleep-disruptive.

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:27 pm

I can try to lower the epap and raise the ps to 6 or 7 and test again

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:44 pm

Greg Riddle wrote:I can try to lower the epap and raise the ps to 6 or 7 and test again
as an amateur, I can't advise you to do it, of course, but that is what I would try myself. The goal is to see whether FLs can be grounded and whether that will help, which may take a few weeks. Do you use nasal strips or any other kind of dilators with your FFM?

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:05 pm

Don't use nasal strips they don't help. I have been using a mixture of alkolol and nasal rinse 3 times a day and dymista nasal decongestant. I get minimal results at best. I always have some nasal congestion

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by tan » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:11 pm

Greg Riddle wrote:Don't use nasal strips they don't help. I have been using a mixture of alkolol and nasal rinse 3 times a day and dymista nasal decongestant. I get minimal results at best. I always have some nasal congestion
ok, flimsy nostrils are ruled out. I guess then a nasal mask won't make any difference in breathing either, even when awake, right?

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Re: first night on vpap auto

Post by Greg Riddle » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:21 pm

Will not make any difference. The obstructions are deep inside my nose.
This part is a bit wrong but here goes right now the left nostril is congested. But I can still my finger into my nostril all the way to my skull with no resistance. The obstructions are deep inside