Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.

Do you use Smart Start or your machine's equivalent feature?

Yes
48
59%
No
23
28%
My machine does not have that
4
5%
I don't know what that is
7
9%
 
Total votes: 82

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by cathyf » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:57 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:I use it to start the machine, but I push the button to shut it off.
Me, too. There is a blast of air otherwise when I take the mask off, and it's about the only time that the machine makes any noise.


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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Krelvin » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:23 pm

On the S9, if the DME doesn't mention it and has it set to the default of off, the patient would never know if they didn't get the clinicians manual. The only time is shows up on the patient screens if the option is set to PATIENT in the Clinical setup menu:

SmartStart—only displayed if set to PATIENT in the Clinical Setup menu
Woody wrote:On the one that does have it I often have to inhale and exhale very forcefully to trigger this self start.
On my S9 this is clearly not an issue. I sometimes make a game of it to see if I can not trigger it on by holding my breath as I put the mask on. If the machine was still on cool down, it almost always turns on once I get a mask seal.
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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by njean » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:24 pm

I do use the SmartStart on my machine. I like that it starts automatically so I don't have to roll over and get tangled in the hose to start the machine. I still usually push the button to turn it off (especially if I have to get up in the middle of the night so I don't wake my fiance with the crazy air sound).

The first night I had the SmartStart turned on my fiance was goofing around and went to put my mask on and got a good startle when the air started! It was pretty hilarious to watch!!

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Guest1 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:17 pm

IMHO, If we don't bug Apple store guys to explain every feature in the iPhone, why do we expect the DME to show us everything.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:47 pm

Informed consent is only mandated for medical matters. That is the difference.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Krelvin » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:02 pm

Apple users think Apple products are medically required.
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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:20 pm

Would that be a deficiency of some kind? --like frustration?

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Chevie » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:13 pm

Guest1 wrote:IMHO, If we don't bug Apple store guys to explain every feature in the iPhone, why do we expect the DME to show us everything.
If the DME showed every patient everything, the costs would be high. But then nobody here expects to pay for what they get.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by saltydawg2 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:21 pm

I used the auto start/stop up to a couple of weeks ago. I quit, because I was pushed for time to get my mask set before it came on, and I was holding my breath a few seconds not to trigger it. I noticed the airflow graph showed me essentially being breathless at the initial lights out, settling down after a few minutes. Also, the light green box in the other graph hit the ceiling, every time I took the mask off and let it turn itself off.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Thatgirl » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:34 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:Suffering in America.
Just because some people like to use a convenient feature, doesn't mean they're viewing themselves as "suffering" if they can't use it. The easier they make cpap, the more likely people are to be compliant with it.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:14 am

Thatgirl wrote:Just because some people like to use a convenient feature, doesn't mean they're viewing themselves as "suffering" if they can't use it. The easier they make cpap, the more likely people are to be compliant with it.
I agree with you and am a big fan of continuous improvement in regular small steps.

I also am a fan of radical innovation that brings big leaps forward for the human species.

BTW, I use the Auto-On feature.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by Noctuary » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:14 pm

I'm glad I found out about this. Pushing that button was killing me.

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Re: Why Don't Suppliers Tell People About This?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:45 pm

Noctuary wrote:Pushing that button was killing me.
Suffering and death in America. Glad you are saved from a short brutal life.