A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

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A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:08 pm

I just installed ResScan 4.3 and got it working on my Asus laptop running Win 7. All seems good tho it does look a bit foreign and sterile when compared to SleepyHead. No surprise there. Sadly there's only a week of comprehensive data from my ResMed's SD card.

Anyway, my sleep doctor is unwilling to learn the basics of SH and will only look at ResScan. HERE'S MY QUESTION ABOUT GETTING ALL NINE MONTHS WORTH OF MY SLEEPYHEAD DATA INTO RESSCAN. Is there a way to point ResScan to my current large 'Sleepyheaddata' file in My Documents and have the raw data pulled into ResScan (ie. from the SH files)? Or a work-around using a proxy SD card? I realize that Mark probably uses his own data management system and puts the data (and folders) where it's useful to SH ... however, the basic downloaded ResMed machine data is probably intact somewhere in Mark's files. I was hoping with some renaming of files and rearranging I could get ResScan to happily gobble them right up Then maybe my stubborn and somewhat lazy sleep doctor will then take a glance at my valuable hard earned ASV data

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Re: A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

Post by JDS74 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:19 pm

This is speculation based on reading this message board for a while.
A large grain of salt should be immediately at hand if you choose to proceed.
It could be all or in part completely incorrect.
Any corrections by people who actually know the details of the ResMed file system on SD are encouraged to participate.

Unlike the Respironics sytems, ResMed systems seem to collect only a short period of data on their SD cards. Perhaps 30 days or so. So for whatever interval that is, you would have to re-create the files for that interval in a format and likely in a postion that would be recognized by ResScan. Given that ResMed firmware and perhaps the Rescan software can be so picky that jut copying the files to another SD card can make the second card unreadable by the machine firmware, this re-creation would be no simple task.

So my guess is - no, it won't work.

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Re: A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

Post by Pugsy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:36 pm

Go into that ResMed folder you have pointed to and look for the SH backup folder...in the backup folder is a bunch of the data files. Datalogue folder has the old data files...I think.

For ResScan to be able to read any old files that are stored in the backup folder you will have to recreate a mirror image of the current SD card file structure and see if you can put those backup files in with the other files.
I have no idea if this will work. You will want to use a second SD card to experiment with though.
I would also use an experimental user profile in ResScan to see if it will import anything at all.

So you need to look at the current SD card to see which files go where in the 2nd experimental SD card...
I have no idea if this can be done and I don't have a S9 machine to try.

ResScan normally looks for a SD card...I don't know of any other way to get ResScan to import data (unsure if changing the download to a file on a computer would work)...and even if you got a mirror image that had all those over 30 day files properly in place...I have no idea if ResScan will do anything with them....like is there something in ResScan that would even look at those older files????

It's a real long shot what you are wanting to do.

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Re: A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

Post by idamtnboy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:30 pm

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Is there a way to point ResScan to my current large 'Sleepyheaddata' file in My Documents and have the raw data pulled into ResScan (ie. from the SH files)? Or a work-around using a proxy SD card?
Pugsy has you going in the right direction. It's been a long time since I mucked around with the S9 data files so I might get something wrong.

Do you have files in some folder that end with PLD, EVE, BRP, and SAD? If so, do you have both .edf and .crc files there? Those are the raw data files Resscan looks for in the Datalog folder on the SD card. As Pugsy said, make a copy of your SD card and create a dummy user in Resscan. Copy all the above files into the Datalog folder on the SD card. I'm quite sure Resscan will download them all. It's not restricted to the 7 & 30 day limits of the S9. You don't have to do anything with the files in the root directory of the card, but they have to be there. The summary file will cover your entire 9 months. At least give it a try.

If you by chance do not have the .crc files, you're screwed. Resscan calculates the crc number for the data file and that number has to match the number in the crc file on the card or it won't download the data.

Unlike the S9, Resscan does not inspect the card to see that the journal.dat file directory entry is physically in the right location on the card, or has strange files on the card, which is why it will read files from an SD card written by the PC.

If all the above works then move the .rlk files from the dummy patient folder to your folder. HTH

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Re: A way to get 9mo of SH data into ResScan 4.3???

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:46 am

Thanks for the info everybody. It looks like I have all the .crc, .edf, .tgt files in the Backup folder. I've been meaning to buy a spare SD card anyway, so I"ll give these ideas a shot. Man, what I do to nudge my stubborn and not very inquisitive sleep doc along! Still, it'll be nice to have all the years data in two different sleep programs then compare the results. A few days ago I did send JediMark a PM and included this link. No input yet but I hope he does weigh in on the subject... it's the holidays so he's probably tied up with family stuff.

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I like my ResMed AirFit F10 FFM - reasonably low leaks for my ASV therapy. I'm currently using a PR S1 AutoSV 960P Advanced. I also keep a ResMed S9 Adapt as backup. I use a heated Hibernite hose. Still rockin' with Win 7 by using GWX to stop Win 10.