Next Generation CPAP?

[fredr500]

In a different thread I asked when the next generation of machines should be expected. One of the comments was that the machines have topped out, there aren’t many new features needed.

So that makes me wonder, what SHOULD go into an S10 or ny other next generation machine?
Here are my thoughts just off the top of my head.

-Built in wifi
-Built in webserver (really pretty easy to do if you already have a processor available), this would enable:
--Remote viewing of all data directly from the machine via a browser or app
--Remote changing of setting by patient or doctor
--Email compliance data to Dr or DME when compliance reached
--Email Dr or patient when certain parameters are exceeded
-Maintenance reminders – change filter, clean reservoir, wash mask, etc.
--Make this available from the web
--Email reminder if not done within a preset time (excellent for caregivers – allows you to call and say “Mom, change your filter,” etc.
-Mobile app to do all of the above
-More memory – enough to save 6 or 12 months of detail data
-Can the unit sense sleep level? If so, built-in alarm clock with a time range to wake, wake at optimum point in sleep cycle. Allow different settings for each day
-Wired hose – all you to plug earbuds into the mask end or design masks with integrated earphones, the other end plugs in to an iPod or other music player. Eliminates a cable going to your head.
-Travel optimized – smaller, lighter, more compact, battery option.

What would you like to see in your next CPAP unit?

[cosmo]

Next generation would be cheap Chinese units.

Can't wait until these come out. Watch as this board light up with all the problems people will have with them

[Wulfman...]

In a different thread I asked when the next generation of machines should be expected. One of the comments was that the machines have topped out, there aren’t many new features needed.

So that makes me wonder, what SHOULD go into an S10 or ny other next generation machine?
Here are my thoughts just off the top of my head.

-Built in wifi
-Built in webserver (really pretty easy to do if you already have a processor available), this would enable:
--Remote viewing of all data directly from the machine via a browser or app
--Remote changing of setting by patient or doctor
--Email compliance data to Dr or DME when compliance reached
--Email Dr or patient when certain parameters are exceeded
-Maintenance reminders – change filter, clean reservoir, wash mask, etc.
--Make this available from the web
--Email reminder if not done within a preset time (excellent for caregivers – allows you to call and say “Mom, change your filter,” etc.
-Mobile app to do all of the above
-More memory – enough to save 6 or 12 months of detail data
-Can the unit sense sleep level? If so, built-in alarm clock with a time range to wake, wake at optimum point in sleep cycle. Allow different settings for each day
-Wired hose – all you to plug earbuds into the mask end or design masks with integrated earphones, the other end plugs in to an iPod or other music player. Eliminates a cable going to your head.
-Travel optimized – smaller, lighter, more compact, battery option.

What would you like to see in your next CPAP unit?

You mean your machine doesn't already have all those features?
How old of a piece of junk are you using?

OK, now to be serious........
Quite a few of those features have already been put into some of the recent generations of machines.
However, I would personally NOT want ANY of the features you've named. More "bells & whistles" are going to add more $$$ to the cost of these things and will eventually break or fail at some point in time.
In recent years, these things have been made to be disposable and with somewhere in the vicinity of five years of use.
With the way things are going with regard to healthcare, people are going to be lucky to get data-capable machines pretty soon.
I haven't even wanted any of the last two generations of machine.......all (10) of my Respironics machines were made between 2005 and 2007. They're all data-capable and do everything I want. I'm not THAT lazy that I would want a machine to do any of those things. Plus, I haven't had a relationship with my sleep doctor since about a month after I started therapy.......and wouldn't want one anytime in the future. It's MY therapy and I keep track of my own data.


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[ChicagoGranny]

OCD or KISS?

I am for everyone making their own choice.

Personally I am with Wulfman - KISS.

[archangle]

Anything connected to the internet is going to be bad news. Big business almost NEVER gets security right and leave big security holes when they decide to connect some new gadget to the internet. Even if nobody's deliberately out there trying to hack your CPAP machine, they'll have some generic hacking tools that attack certain common tools used to access the internet that may break your machine.

Or someone will figure out a security hole and use internet attached CPAP machines as relays to send out spam or do other nefarious things.

Unfortunately, I suspect the future updated CPAP machines will start to give us things like Apple and other bad companies do to their victims.

Lock in to only be able to access data with the manufacturer's software. For which a monthly fee is charged. (For the security and privacy of the patient, of course.)

You can only change the pressure settings with the manufacturer's software.

The software won't be updated to work on newer computers. For instance, some time in the future, the software necessary to change the pressure settings on your 3 year old CPAP machine won't work on current computers, which all require Windows 9.

A chip in the filter, hose, and mask to tell you when to change it. Of course, the chip will be proprietary and won't work with "dangerous" unauthorized "counterfeit" parts not made by the manufacturer.

[Suddenly Worn Out]

Oh God, I dont want to think about it. All I can say is "If it aint broke, dont fix it." Cheap chinese machines and masks, heck I bet a lot of the medium and lower end gear is ALREADY made in china. It is hard enough to find a machine these days that will calibrate right. Your prescription says a pressure of 12 and when you set it for 12 in the computer, it really blows 11.5. Or 12.5.

I wish they'd just keep the gear as it is. Continue to improve the Bipap and VPap type machines for those folks who have super complicated apnea and neuromuscular diseases. Continue to improve the masks. They can ALWAYS be improving the masks, IMO. But really overall, I hate it when they reinvent the wheel. Especially when it is just to increase their bottom line.

Eric

[hyperlexis]

Internet connection to allow physicians to track therapy (far easier and faster than mailing in a chip every month), better sensors and algorythm improvements, better rainout protection, better, easier to use controls/displays, HEPA filters, and hopefully all cheaper. Also would be great to have clock radio feature.

[Otter]

Internet connection to allow physicians to track therapy (far easier and faster than mailing in a chip every month), better sensors and algorythm improvements, better rainout protection, better, easier to use controls/displays, HEPA filters, and hopefully all cheaper. Also would be great to have clock radio feature.

True HEPA is a great idea. Internet, not so much. I would definitely not trust the people who wrote the firmware for my S9 to secure a web server.

[khauser]

Internet capable? I'm VERY techy, and I don't want that. Two reasons come to mind:
1) Privacy concerns
2) Hackers. I can see some teenage idiot thinking it would be great fun to re-program the machine!

I'll predict that future models will continue to get smaller and quieter, perhaps offer built-in battery backup of some sort. APAPs and higher might experience algorithm tweaks as the logic in higher end (think hospital) breath support systems migrates downward.

Other than that, who knows!

[quietmorning]

I'd like an oximeter hooked into the machine to get the data all in one place (and of course if insurance pays, that's so much the better.)

[ChicagoGranny]

Awww, that's a reminder.

In addition to all the features mentioned, everyone want the next generation CPAP to be delivered free to their home today.

[bloveds]

I would like to see a machine that ramps up AND down based on our breathing patterns. For those that have high therapy settings, if we stir, it will often wake us up. Even "Sense Awake" does not overcome this.

[chunkyfrog]

Isn't it about freakin' time for a washable, re-usable HEPA filter?
I'd be fine if there was blue tooth that can be linked with a computer or smartphone;
---with enough internal memory to cover a temporary failure to pair.
Have software that makes e-mailable files we can send to the doctor.

[Pachyderm's Nose]

Isn't it about freakin' time for a washable, re-usable HEPA filter?
I'd be fine if there was blue tooth that can be linked with a computer or smartphone;
---with enough internal memory to cover a temporary failure to pair.
Have software that makes e-mailable files we can send to the doctor.

+1,
Those 2 things would make me consider a new machine!

[LSAT]

Internet connection to allow physicians to track therapy (far easier and faster than mailing in a chip every month), better sensors and algorythm improvements, better rainout protection, better, easier to use controls/displays, HEPA filters, and hopefully all cheaper. Also would be great to have clock radio feature.

Never put your health info on the internet!

Why would you mail in a chip every month?????

F & P Icon already has a clock, with music, on it. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/3239