Where do you put your xpap?

YogaKitty · Post by **YogaKitty** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:20 pm

I am still waiting on mine. But I'm trying to get ready for it. I understand it has to be lower than my mattress. I have a bedside table with two shelves. The top one is higher than my head by a little and the lower one is lower than my mattress. BUT - I don't think I will be able to see what the machine is up to and fill water and such with this table. So I am curious. What do YOU use?/

Xney · Post by **Xney** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:48 pm

It's on the nightstand next to my bed.. slightly lower than the bed, so it works.

2nd option would be raised off the floor on something for me.

brucifer · Post by **brucifer** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:55 pm

YogaKitty wrote:I am still waiting on mine. But I'm trying to get ready for it. I understand it has to be lower than my mattress. I have a bedside table with two shelves. The top one is higher than my head by a little and the lower one is lower than my mattress. BUT - I don't think I will be able to see what the machine is up to and fill water and such with this table. So I am curious. What do YOU use?/

As long as the hose leading from your CPAP machine is directed higher than your machine, you should be good to go. I keep my CPAP machine on an antique endtable that is level with my bed. When I'm getting ready to sleep, I hang the hose over the edge of lampshade of the lamp on my endtable where the lampsade meets the wall, and the other end of the hose comes down and attaches to my mask. I bought a large rubber-coated hook that I am going to screw into the wall to replace my makshift lampshade arrangement. Some people like to hang their tubing over the headboard of their bed, and some like to construct a roller or purchase a commercial product. I'm sure you'll find a creative way to make it all work for you. Good luck!

YogaKitty · Post by **YogaKitty** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:19 pm

Thanks Brucifer. I didn't know it was just the hose. That shouldn't be a problem. I was thinking I could send the hose up over my headboard.

greatunclebill · Post by **greatunclebill** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:22 pm

our machines are at pretty much head level on the bedside cabinets and come directly across to us, but the hoses fall toward the floor between the stand and the bed. the idea behind having the machine lower than the mattress is because water don't run uphill. with the dip down of the hoses between the stand and the bed, ours don't run uphill either.

snuginarug · Post by **snuginarug** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:28 pm

I have the same situation as greatunclebill. I don't find that the hose interferes with my normal movement in sleep, so I don't need a rig. Some people need a rig in order to turn comfortably in their sleep. It is very individual.

troubs · Post by **troubs** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:41 pm

I bought a folding stepstool and I use that at night, then fold it up and put the cpap machine up high during the day where my kids won't fiddle with it. The stepstool is the perfect size for my cpap.

http://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-Rhino- ... +stepstool

RogerSC · Post by **RogerSC** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:50 pm

I seem to have lost the posting that I spent several minutes composing, darn it, so this one will be shorter. I should have learned to wait until I see my posting before going back to the forum...

Where is the information about tubing versus machine versus bed positioning coming from? I just re-read the ResMed information about my S9, and it says nothing about this. I've had things arranged in several different ways, all worked...the machine has always been a few inches above the level of my bed, which just means that I can't see the LCD display while it's running, which has not been a problem. The tubing has been up and it's been down relative to the bed and the machine and everything works exactly the same for me.

So I'm wondering where this positioning information came from? In my vast *smile* experience it hasn't mattered at all, except for personal comfort. Now I'm using a "tubing buddy" thingie that elevates the tubing, but that's just for comfort, no other reason.

Xney · Post by **Xney** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:54 pm

If you don't get water in your hose or mask, it doesn't really matter IMO.

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:01 pm

If you can afford it (or are really good at copying), there are a couple of people here who have designed tables specially for cpap... try doing a search here on cpap nightstands.

RogerSC · Post by **RogerSC** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:06 pm

Xney wrote:If you don't get water in your hose or mask, it doesn't really matter IMO.

Yes, no issues with "rainout" or any moisture coming down the tubing or from the mask *smile*. When I was camping recently and using the humidifier without heat, and the temperature varied a lot, no problems with that. The temperature even went down to about 32F one night when we were camping at altitude in Canada, no moisture problems. That surprised me, I thought that I'd see some moisture then.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:54 pm

Where is the information about tubing versus machine versus bed positioning coming from?

Back in the olden days before heated hoses and such ...keeping the machine lower than the bed allowed any rain out condensation accumulating in the hose to run back (hopefully) into the humidifier and lessen the chance of rain out making it to the face or making some horrible noises in the hose that was guaranteed to wake the dead.
Mostly it was a wintertime issue but could happen at any time under the right conditions.
I tell you that a 1/8 cup of water in the hose makes an awful racket...totally amazing...getting sprayed in your face is a rude awakening too. I would get up to pour the water out the hose and such a tiny amount of water would be in the hose....I was sure that the darn thing was almost totally full of water by the way it sounded and felt.

I think now with the heated hose machines that the need for "lower than the mattress" is probably going to fade away.
My machine is level with my mattress. Once I got a heated hose....rainout was zero problem but before the heated hose...even dropping the machine much lower than the mattress didn't totally eliminate it.

greatunclebill · Post by **greatunclebill** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:30 pm

some people get rainout and some people never do. all 3 of my respironics machines over the years have been on the same nightstand, etc and never had a heated hosed. i've used every humidifier setting and never got rainout in the mask or even in the hose. all of this time has been on the gulf coast of alabama where it is fairly hot & humid with the a/c running 24-7 most of the year.

Roobin · Post by **Roobin** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:33 pm

I've only been using XPAP for a few months so admittedly am no expert. But no one instructed me not to keep the unit at or below bed-level. Because of the discussion in this thread, I just checked the Resmed user guides and they say nothing about this. The brochure produced by my DME (Apria) says not to place it over your head, but indicates this is so the unit won't get pulled off and hit you on the head.

Initially I located the unit on the nightstand but found it impossible to avoid getting tangled in the hose. It was driving me crazy, and causing me severe sleep deprivation. Because I have a headboard that allows you to place stuff on top of it, I finally decided to put the XPAP unit up there. Yes, above my head, just like the instructions said not to do. However......I took the following steps to avoid any mishaps: 1) I put a piece of non-slip material (the type of stuff used to prevent area rugs from slipping on hardwood floors) under the unit and 2) I attached a piece of velcro to the unit and then anchored the other end firmly to the back of the headboard. Both of these will prevent the unit from being pulled off the headboard and onto my head.....though on some nights, getting knocked out by my XPAP unit might seem like a great way to get some sleep.

Having the unit above my head has completely eliminated the hose-tangling problem. I don't feel my life is endangered, given the precautions I've taken (hey, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, so my life is probably in greater danger from an earthquake shattering the glass window near my bed). And, I certainly don't think this positioning has affected the operation of my unit.

Sloop · Post by **Sloop** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:36 pm

greatunclebill wrote:some people get rainout and some people never do. all 3 of my respironics machines over the years have been on the same nightstand, etc and never had a heated hosed. i've used every humidifier setting and never got rainout in the mask or even in the hose. all of this time has been on the gulf coast of alabama where it is fairly hot & humid with the a/c running 24-7 most of the year.

Never had rainout, so I can't speak to it.

My first seven years with my original machine, I never even had a humidifier. Since then, I've had 4 machines with humidifiers but have never turned on any heat setting. I use about 1/5 of the tank each night on just passive humidity.

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