Anyone have this machine?

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Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Mon May 21, 2012 3:14 pm

Does anyone have any info or experience using a Resmed VPAP auto 25?
It has the humidifier combined with the unit but the main unit can be disconnected for transport

I have gone thru many units from the VA and received this one recently

They program it there and as far as I know, the only thing I can adjust is the heat
It seems to work OK but sometimes I can not tell any difference when I use it vs when I don't. Conversely sometimes I can . This is not specific to this machine.

It does wonders to stop my snoring ( my wife loves that) but I still feel tired like I am not resting. I first thought it might be my bed but we went to great lengths to find a good mattress set last year. I travel some and it is the same in any bed I sleep in at a hotel or family when we visit.

I just went to the VA last week, got a new mask, they raised the pressure to 18 and then I went to see the nurse practitioner. She had some blood tests done that measured Thyroid, Testosterone, vitamin D and a couple others. The results were normal except I am a little light on vitamin D

I went to my regular doctor a couple weeks before the VA and he ran a battery of blood tests which came back normal.
Anyway, I was looking for a little info on this unit, I do not know what VPAP is and if there are adjustments I could make

Thanks in advance for any input

Dan

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by squid13 » Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Here's from the product page at cpap.com https://www.cpap.com/cpap-machine/resme ... chine.html

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by NightMonkey » Mon May 21, 2012 4:29 pm

Check that this is the correct machine - https://www.cpap.com/cpap-machine/resme ... chine.html

Click on the tabs at the bottom of the page to see machine features, specs, etc.

Then click on the Edit button in your post and change the subject to, S8 VPAP™ Auto 25 BiLevel Machine - Questions.

At the same time edit your post to add any questions you have after reading the aforementioned info. Also state something about your diagnosis and script - type of sleep apnea, pressure settings, mask used, etc.

Fill out the equipment profile.

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Mon May 21, 2012 6:53 pm

If you do have the machine that NightMonkey has a link to in his posts I believe it is a full data machine meaning that you could use ResScan software to see your daily reports in detail...such as leak and AHI.
There is also some data on the LCD screen. Do you have access to this data? If not you can turn on the access in the clinical menu. Need to check it prior to noon though because a new day and reporting period starts at noon so it resets to zero.
You can request the provider manual for your machine here...be sure to follow the instructions and state the proper name and model of your machine. http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-p ... tup-manual

If you happen to have the S9 model of this machine...look at my signature line and click on the link to the machine I am using to see if your machine looks like mine...then you can use Sleepyhead software (and ResScan) to evaluate your data.

The older model S8 series (like the one that NightMonkey linked to) has a specials smart card for data gathering and a special card reader is needed to use the software. That card reader is hard to find and pricey. If you were given this machine (the S8 model) recently then they gave you a discontinued model of machine. There is a new model of this machine.. again see the link in my signature.

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Mon May 21, 2012 7:12 pm

I have the machine that Night Monkey linked to

Regarding updating the equipment list, I did try to do that but my machine was not listed. Neither was my mask. I did put it in comments like the instructions said but I do not see them anywhere....which is why I asked about it

I do not get to see the data when I take the machine in to the VA. I am unaware ( until now) that there is software and other things I can do with the machine
Basically, they did a sleep study, set the machine up., monitored me each month for a while then 6 months and now 12 months.

I just take it home and use it, the only thing I know how to do is add water and adjust the temp.
I will take a look around on the links but anything you guys can do to educate me on how I can operate this thing would be appreciated

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Mon May 21, 2012 7:23 pm

Your machine is indeed in the equipment list drop down menu

S8 VPAP Auto 25 with bag, etc....

Just need to look in the S8 group.

Humidifier is the H4i...so look in the H grouping

Which mask do you use? Manufacturer name and model?

To add anything to your comments area you just type it in and be sure to hit submit button for it to take...See my comments section for my additional information about my other machine.

Do you wish to try to find the card reader and use the software (ResScan) or do you just want to use the onscreen available data? It does have data available. Get the provider manual and it will tell you what is available and how to get to it.
That card reader is really hard to find and last I saw only offered on EBay and from a seller in Israel.
This is what is needed. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -cpap.html

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by NightMonkey » Mon May 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Link to card reader on EBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/ResMed-ResScan- ... 0645456664

Software download is available free from ResMed.
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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Mon May 21, 2012 7:56 pm

Found this one on e bay
is this a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Resmed-ResScan- ... 3cc47cc0d8

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Mon May 21, 2012 8:06 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Do you wish to try to find the card reader and use the software (ResScan) or do you just want to use the onscreen available data? It does have data available. Get the provider manual and it will tell you what is available and how to get to it.
That card reader is really hard to find and last I saw only offered on EBay and from a seller in Israel.
This is what is needed. https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -cpap.html

Can you tell me what the advantage of the software is?
I don't mind spending the money if it will gain me something I don't have now that I can use to better my sleep

Obviously I am a rookie at this so thank you for your patience with my questions that I am sure have been asked a thousand times

I did get the equipment updated and even my avatar

Thanks again
Dan

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Mon May 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Check out the ResScan tutorial to get an idea what is offered in the software
http://montfordhouse.com/cpap/resscan_tutorial/

Get the provider/clinical manual right now from the link I sent you then you can see what data is available on the LCD screen.
AHI..leak..pressure..not sure if AHI breakdown into event categories.

AHI... we like to see less than 5.
Leak...with the S8 machine your line to not cross is 0.4 L/sec which is what your machine will show and that equals 24 L/min that the S9 machines record as the red line we don't want to cross.

Then you can decide if you need to see the detailed reports offered by the software. Is it critical to have the software reports? Probably not if the on screen data is acceptable and you are reporting that you are feeling pretty good most of the time and sleeping well. If you aren't sleeping well and aren't feeling good and the AHI is high or leak is high then we may need to evaluate things but it can be done without the software. Just not as easily and as clearly as it would be if you had the software.

So there is no real rush to get the card reader at the present time. It won't hurt anything to wait and see how things go. At least you have some daily data available on the machine screen. Just remember to check it before noon and while you are in the clinical menu making sure that you have access to the data go ahead and make sure the clock is correct.

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Mon May 21, 2012 8:40 pm

Yes, as sad as it is to say but that 59.99 cost for that card reader is a good price..so is the S/H.
I have seen them for as much as $100. Does your machine already have a smart card?

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Tue May 22, 2012 3:17 pm

I don't believe it has a card installed

I open the back and see what appears to be something like a circuit card with terminal ends.....like the male part that maybe the reader would connect to.

I believe I remember the lady at the VA plugged something in instead of removing a card

I am ok to wait on the reader but I wonder if they are hard to find now, will they go away in a few months or increase in price
Another concern is if the VA changes units on me again, I this is my third different unit

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Tue May 22, 2012 10:05 pm

Some of those older machines didn't have the model for the smart card to be inserted in. Instead they required a physical connection from the machine to the computer. You might have one of those machines and buying the card reader would be fruitless unless you have the smart card and the module where the smart card slides into.
Someone familiar with this model could perhaps offer ideas on what to look for.

I thought you probably had the S8 model but maybe you have older model.

Does it look like this? http://www.resmed.com/us/products/vpap_ ... c=patients

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by phantomdaz » Wed May 23, 2012 6:52 am

Pugsy wrote:Some of those older machines didn't have the model for the smart card to be inserted in. Instead they required a physical connection from the machine to the computer. You might have one of those machines and buying the card reader would be fruitless unless you have the smart card and the module where the smart card slides into.
Someone familiar with this model could perhaps offer ideas on what to look for.

I thought you probably had the S8 model but maybe you have older model.

Does it look like this? http://www.resmed.com/us/products/vpap_ ... c=patients

Yes this is the machine I have
there is no slot in the plastic cover on the rear of the machine to insert a card

What options do I have to use software? The VA has some way to do it, I have downloaded the Resmed software already ....just need a way to hook it up if it is possible to do so with this unit

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Re: Anyone have this machine?

Post by Pugsy » Wed May 23, 2012 8:26 am

phantomdaz wrote: Yes this is the machine I have
there is no slot in the plastic cover on the rear of the machine to insert a card

What options do I have to use software?
I am not sure what options you might have. I am not familiar at all with your machine in its current state.
Perhaps this https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... chine.html if you could find it. Plus if you could find it I suspect it would be fairly expensive. This was used prior to the use of the smart cards and smart card readers. Before my time using cpap machine so I haven't studied it at all. Some discussion about it and ResLink (no longer available) in the old archives of the forum. Perhaps one of the forum members who is familiar with this machine configuration has some ideas. Don't go buying anything right now.
I thought there was some sort of attachment thing that could be put on the back of the machine and it would allow smart card use but even the smart cards are hard to find.

Personally, I would want a more current model machine. I have no idea why they gave you such an old model. Cheap I suppose. Is there anyway you can purchase a machine that does offer full data? I know you shouldn't have to but.....
Bilevel machines aren't cheap though. Secondwindcpap.com sometimes has gently used bilevel machines though.
They used to have a S9 VPAP Auto (which is the latest model in your line of machine) for $875 and that included the humidifier. I bought mine privately for a little more money because I don't have a RX for bilevel so I can't go the normal supplier route.

Can you access any data all on on your machine's LCD screen? If so, what data?

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