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kieran
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machine noise

Post by kieran » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:18 pm

I have a DeVilbiss sleep cube plus and cover over the hose but I find there is noise is there anything I can do to reduce noise

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Re: machine noise

Post by Pugsy » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:31 pm

Set the machine lower and farther away from the bed? Possibly set the machine on a towel or something to muffle sound a little?

I have seen some people post pictures here of little sound insulation boxes they built to put over their machines and still allow for adequate ventilation.

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Re: machine noise

Post by Hose_Head » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:39 pm

kieran wrote:I have a DeVilbiss sleep cube plus and cover over the hose but I find there is noise is there anything I can do to reduce noise
Pugsy has it right.

For best noise suppression, the cpap should be located where it is slightly lower than the top of your mattress. This way, there is no direct line-of-sight from machine to you.

In addition, some have commented that placing the machine on a mouse-pad will further reduce the noise.

The Intellipap has a reputation for being one of the quieter cpaps on the market. And the Activa LT mask is one of the quieter masks (I use it too!). This raises the question of why you are experiencing a problem with noise. Can you tell us more about what you are hearing and where it is coming from? Is the noise from the cpap, or is it originating in your mask? Is it a mask-leak?
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Re: machine noise

Post by robysue » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:51 pm

When I've had issues with machine noise, it's primarily been conducted noise coming through the hose or coming directly from the mattress---if either the xPAP machine is actually touching the bed or if the table the xPAP is on is touching the bed.

So it's possible that some (or all) of the noise you are noticing is conducted noise. Conducted noise can magnify the sound of your breathing as it affects the pressurized air being blown into your mask by the machine as well as the sounds the machine makes all by itself. Moving the hose even slightly can help with this problem.

And what is conducted noise? All solids are capable of transmitting sound waves. It's just that we're usually not attached to a solid that is carrying sound waves in an environment that allows the conducted noise to be particularly noticeable to us. The sound waves the hose are carrying, by the way, include the sound of your breathing as well as the sounds the machine itself is making. And every inhale/exhale you make affects the flow of the air in the hose, which affects the sound of the flow of the air ....

In general, conducted noise that we notice is from sound waves that are transmitted through solid substances (the hose, your pillows, covers, body) to your head and skull, and directly into your inner ear; thus conducted noise completely avoids the usual transmission route for sound through the outer ear through the ear drum, into the middle ear, through the three small bones in the middle ear and into the inner ear. Because conducted noise gets to your inner ear without going through the outer ear at all, using earplugs to dampen or block noise can actually intensify annoying and irritating conducted noise because the earplugs fit into your outer ear and only block the NON-conducted noise.

And how do you deal with conducted noise from the hose? First, try moving the hose: If it's lying on your pillow or actually touching your head---particularly the area around the back of your ears, try to move your head and the hose to minimize the contact between the hose and the pillow and your head. The hose touching the pillow is the usual number one suspect in conducted noise from the hose. (That's also part of why the special CPAP pillows with the cutouts for the mask not only help stabilize the mask and reduce leaks, but also may help with conducted noise issues.)

In addition to moving the hose, you can also try to give the conducted noise a bit of more pleasant competition to distract your conscious mind from the noise. In general irritating noises (be they real or nasty tinnitus) are often easy to ignore in the presence of a more pleasant auditory stimulus---such as a cd of nature sounds, other pleasant "white noise" or even quiet soft music. And note: You do NOT need to have the volume of the music/nature sounds/etc on high enough to drown the conducted noise out---no it's actually more effective in the long run if the pleasant sound is at a comfortable (quiet) level for sleeping that's just barely loud enough to give the conducted noise competition for your attention. That's all it takes to get your mind off the conducted noise--competition from a more pleasant auditory stimulus that you'd rather listen to. Then the conducted noise fades into the background and you don't notice it. Same trick works for my tinnitus by the way.

Because my husband doesn't object to it (in fact he tells me he enjoys it), I've dealt with the conducted noise issue myself by leaving my iHome on all night repeatedly looping through a Gregorian chant playlist playing at a reasonable volume. I can't stand headphones or earplugs and I was noticing that I kept waking up when the iHome was turning itself OFF when I was using it's Sleep feature. So it's better for my sleep to just leave the Gregorian chants playing all night long. And the Gregorian chant keeps my mind off the conducted noise from the hose unless I've got a migraine or tension headache brewing. But that's another issue all together.

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