Still not sleeping good at all

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Re: Still not sleeping good at all

Post by JeffH » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:22 pm

Muse-Inc wrote:
JeffH wrote:...been really controlling my blood sugar for the first time since I was diagnosed with diabetes. They stay between 90 and 110 for the most part...
Are you eating a bedtime snack? I recommended a protein+fat (0 or at most 4 grams carb) snack to both my diabetic friends, they tried it and it helped them start sleeping thru the night and reduced their dawn effect numbers. As with everything YRMV

Jeff, seems to me, with your list of probs that it's like you're a new hosehead...something's changed and nothing's working the way it did. I'm kinda thinking Ozij's suggestion to try the ResMed at that range might be a good idea...can you get your hands on one? And, not the new Escape Auto The algorithm between Respironics and ResMed is quite different and you just might benefit from that difference now that you're in this things are different phase.
I'm thinking about trying to get a Resmed. Thanks for the reminder about the snack, also. I did sleep better the night I ate a half a slice of swiss cheese.

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Re: Still not sleeping good at all

Post by JeffH » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:38 am

Ate a half a slice of swiss cheese a half hour before bed and slept for seven hours. Had four short wake up's but this is a big improvement.

Going to have to dig my chin strap out. Mouth came open in spite of the tape. A pressure of 15 really causes some mouth breathing issues. Hopefully a chin strap and 2" tape will work over the long run. I really don't want to try a FF mask again.

Thanks for the reminder about the snack.


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Re: Still not sleeping good at all

Post by roster » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:47 am

A study by the British Cheese Board in 2005 to determine the effect of cheese upon sleep and dreaming discovered that, contrary to the idea that cheese commonly causes nightmares, the effect of cheese upon sleep was positive. The majority of the two hundred people tested over a fortnight claimed beneficial results from consuming cheeses before going to bed, the cheese promoting good sleep. .... Cheese contains tryptophan, an amino acid that has been found to relieve stress and induce sleep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese
Despite those studies, I believe the major source of improved sleep from eating Swiss cheese is that a few of the holes inevitably get lodged in the airway and help to prevent apneas.
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Re: Still not sleeping good at all

Post by JeffH » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:21 am

rooster wrote:
A study by the British Cheese Board in 2005 to determine the effect of cheese upon sleep and dreaming discovered that, contrary to the idea that cheese commonly causes nightmares, the effect of cheese upon sleep was positive. The majority of the two hundred people tested over a fortnight claimed beneficial results from consuming cheeses before going to bed, the cheese promoting good sleep. .... Cheese contains tryptophan, an amino acid that has been found to relieve stress and induce sleep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese
Despite those studies, I believe the major source of improved sleep from eating Swiss cheese is that a few of the holes inevitably get lodged in the airway and help to prevent apneas.

I also took your advice and walked later in the day. I believe between the two ideas it helped my sleep last nite. Thanks for the good ideas.


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Re: Still not sleeping good at all

Post by roster » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:19 am

ldj325 wrote:I hope my comments will not be out of line here. This is my first post and I know very little about OSA and CPAP and have no input regarding that. (I've only just self-diagnosed that I may have OSA and in doing my initial research I found this site.) But I am a health professional and know a lot about blood sugar issues. Many people (non-OSA related) find themselves waking up after a few hours (often 3-4 hrs, but it can be shorter) because their blood sugar levels drop (cortisol gets released which is more of a "wake up and find food" hormone). One way to test this out is to eat a moderate amount of protein (turkey would be a good choice--or a non-sugary protein drink) right at bedtime. If you find yourself extending your sleep cycle, then it is likely that blood sugar issues were at least a part of the reason for the premature waking. I am not advocating that eating at bedtime is the way to handle blood sugar issues, but it can be an effective sleep first aid for those with this pattern until they can do a proper correction. This may or may not be the case with your situation, but many, many people have this pattern. Unfortunately there is no law or rule that says we are limited to one malady or imbalance at a time. And most even moderately overweight folk (and there's a pattern for skinny folk too) have at least sub-clinical blood sugar issues. It's much like OSA where it goes undiagnosed a lot.

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I have a vision that we will figure out an easy way to ensure that children develop wide, deep, healthy and attractive jaws and then obstructive sleep apnea becomes an obscure bit of history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycw4uaX ... re=related