Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

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Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by roster » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:26 pm

I referred a friend who has been on CPAP for a few years and is feeling poorly to my sleep doctor. The friend came over before her consultation and I gave her some documents on what to say and ask. I also gave her copies of two Encore Pro Daily Details report. The first report showed a typical bad night using the prescription a former sleep doc had given me. The second report showed a very good night after I had everything tweaked.

The friend called this afternoon to report on the consultation. She said it was a very good meeting with the doc and she thanked me for the advice and the documentation which she took into the consultation. The doc scheduled her for another sleep study.

Before she left the doc asked, "What are those documents you have?". My friend showed the documents to the doc who was very interested in them, particulary the Encore Pro reports.

The doc asked who the documents were from. My friend told the doc, "They are from real name (Rooster), your patient who referred me."

The doc (also a female) got a big smile on her face and said, "I should have known. It could be no one else. I have no other patient like Rooster."

Then the doc said, "Before you leave, I want you to know that the study my sleep lab does for you will not be nearly as accurate as what Rooster does with his software."

Aha! This is what I have been saying. One quick night in the strange environment of a sleep lab with things glued and taped on your body and people watching you remotely with infrared cameras and listening to you with microphones and you will not sleep the same way you do at home.

I was glad to see my doctor admit what you guys taught me. If you want a good therapy you better get the software, get educated, and take charge of your own therapy. Thank you cpaptalk members and thanks to Johnny Goodman.

Postscript
I told my wife the story and she said, "Someday the medical board will take you to court for practicing medicine without a license."

I said, "I would love it. Bring 'em on. I want to make a big damn deal in the newspapers about how sleep docs and labs are doing a sorry job and need to reform the whole practice of sleep medicine."

You guys would testify on my behalf?

And, er, maybe set up a fund for my defense?

Or at least write me in prison?

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by dsm » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:42 pm

Yea - Go-Rooster-Go !!!

(or was that Crow Rooster Crow )

A great story and one to encourage all the newcomers - joining in here and getting into monitoring our own therapy is likely to put you ahead in the race to having effective results and extending your life.

You area a champ ! Dr Rooster (Hons in Effective Therapy from Univ Cpaptalk in Texas)

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Post by BleepingBeauty » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:55 pm

rooster wrote:Postscript
I told my wife the story and she said, "Someday the medical board will take you to court for practicing medicine without a license."

I said, "I would love it. Bring 'em on. I want to make a big damn deal in the newspapers about how sleep docs and labs are doing a sorry job and need to reform the whole practice of sleep medicine."
I think you should write an editorial or an article for a newspaper or magazine and do just that. Why not?
You guys would testify on my behalf?

And, er, maybe set up a fund for my defense?

Or at least write me in prison?
You bet - to all of the above.
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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by Raj » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:15 am

That's one wise doctor. I'll be in the cell next to yours.
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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by mars » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:59 am

Rooster

Great story

cheers

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by karessamom » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:30 am

I truely believe that we must take charge of our own treatments and be proactive in our care. Drs are Great but they have lots of patients and can't do everything all the time for us. They can only do so much because the only see us for maybe 10-15 min at a time. It's very important that the patient and the dr. work together in treatments. That's one of the reasons I like my PCP so much. The more times I see her, the more I think she shares the same philosophy. And Rooster, like you said, there's no way you can sleep in those sleep labs the same way you sleep at home with all those wires etc attached to you. When I had my sleep study I didn't think i'd slept at all, although according to the PSG I showed all stages of sleep. but only had a sleep efficientcy of 57.1%. some of it I know was from being afraid of detatching all the wires etc so I couldn't get really comfortable.

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by mdbarthe » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:38 am

I have always enjoyed your posts, evaluations of others' issues and very much respected your opinions and advice. I'm not shocked by the doctor's comments and it goes to prove that you, my friend, have a very intelligent and knowledgeable physician!!

GONGRATULATIONS and KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

As for your wife's anxiety about the ramifications of your goodwill and compassion for others; I say the people who visit this website and receive your well-intentioned advice benefit far more than any prima donna, God-imitating doctor who feels threatened or intimidated by an experienced XPAP user who has "on the job" training and experience with the use of XPAP as opposed to "book learning knowledge". What's that old expression; "Those who cannot do consult?"

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by jdm2857 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:05 am

Don't worry Rooster, we could always send you a tube of Lansinoh with a file hidden inside.

Then you would be able to fly the coop.
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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by Slinky » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:16 am

Right on, Rooster!! I'll contribute to your bail, contribute to your legal fees, testify on your behalf and contribute to your setting up practice to help others. (I don't do jail visits, but don't think they'll be necessary in your case).

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by LinkC » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:51 am

Aw Jeez.... As if Rooster's head wasn't ALREADY too big!

Congrats on being validated by a medical professional!!

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by Snorebert » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:08 pm

jdm2857 said,
Don't worry Rooster, we could always send you a tube of Lansinoh with a file hidden inside.

Then you would be able to fly the coop.
At least you should be able to slip out

Great story. It is just so intuitive that a one-shot assessment of someone in a strange environment and the worst possible sleep hygiene would produce flawed results.

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by Cassandra » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:41 pm

Wow. Very nice to hear you're doin' it right!

By the way, do convicts get to sleep with cpap machines in prison?

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by roster » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:47 pm

Snorebert wrote: ..... It is just so intuitive that a one-shot assessment of someone in a strange environment and the worst possible sleep hygiene would produce flawed results.

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I rambled a bit, but the point of my whole story was that if a doctor is well informed, he/she will encourage you to get educated, use the software, and tweak your settings.

Thank you Clark. I purloined that to use in my signature for awhile.
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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by Gerald » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:26 pm

Forget the Lansenoh and the file.....that's too slow.

We'll use a helicopter to fly you out.....one M-60 in each door.......

Just let us know when they let the Rooster into the "yard".......

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Re: Doctor Says Rooster's Studies More Accurate

Post by junie » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:24 pm

You are a fantastic person, keep up with the great job you are doing, I'm so happy I found this group.
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