New User's First Post, Sleepy in GV's therapy thread

[Sleepy in GV]

Are you sleeping through that leak???
If you are....shrug your shoulders and move on. It's not enough to mess with.

But just to make sure you don't have a lemon...let's do a test while awake...right before bedtime tonight if you can so you don't have to burn a set of ports.

Attach everything...make sure you aren't experiencing any leaks from anywhere that you can hear or feel (other than the vent of course).
Use the mask while awake, sitting up, watching TV or reading for 30 minutes. You will be awake so you will know if your mouth is closed or not.
Let's look at the leak line for that 30 minutes.

At some point to put a copy of this post over in the Bleep review thread or a link back to this post....Stuart is watching the review thread and the only way he learns about people's responses and/or issues is when he reads about them. He cares. He won't know to look over here in this thread.

Yes, I am sleeping through that leak. It is taking me awhile to get there, but once asleep I am mostly staying asleep.

I will do your test tonight, good idea!

I think that is part of the trouble I'm having, when I attach everything, there is still air and noise. It isn't totally silent.

I'll figure out how to copy it over at some point for Stuart.

Thank you! I will enjoy watching a little tv in bed. I stopped since learning about sleep hygiene. It will be nice to enjoy and old bad habit for a very good reason !

[Sleepy in GV]

Mask Pressure OR pressure, (preferably pressure) not both please. They're redundant at a full night zoom, and cause the other charts to be unnecessarily squished.

BUT, the only problem I keep having is my leaks are always so big.

Where? You might notice that the y axis autoscales, look at the legend.

Yes, I suppose it isn't "big", but rather frequent. I guess I always had almost no green anywhere pre bleep, now it is everywhere. Plus, other people's charts don't have hardly any green at all on the leak line with the bleep, right? As Pugsy advised, if I'm sleeping through it, ignore it. I might, but I would like to try and figure out if I do have a leaky unit. Hmmmm.... the quote feature is on the blink again I think. My post is now in the body of your quote, as was yours earlier.

[palerider]

BUT, the only problem I keep having is my leaks are always so big.

Where? You might notice that the y axis autoscales, look at the legend.

Yes, I suppose it isn't "big", but rather frequent. I guess I always had almost no green anywhere pre bleep, now it is everywhere. Plus, other people's charts don't have hardly any green at all on the leak line with the bleep, right? As Pugsy advised, if I'm sleeping through it, ignore it. I might, but I would like to try and figure out if I do have a leaky unit. Hmmmm.... the quote feature is on the blink again I think. My post is now in the body of your quote, as was yours earlier.

You didn't delete the right amount of inner quoted bits.

When you wake up, listen for any leaks, if it's going to leak because the tape is coming loose, it'll do it then most likely.

I had air blowing in my left eye one morning, and found that the tape on the right side, up the bridge of my nose, had developed a tiny channel that was blowing a gentle stream across to the other side... I was poking around on the left side forever trying to find the leak.. didn't expect a 'crossover'.

[Sleepy in GV]

Here's last night. I stayed up watching TV for 36 minutes. In that time, I think I took it on and off twice to try to deal with the noise. Once I went to "bed" ie to try to sleep, because I was already in bed, I took it off maybe twice more. I felt around a lot with it on and because there is so much air blowing down through the vents, it is hard to tell if it is coming anywhere else. I was able to change the angle and get it to go silent by propping it up with my finger, but of course can't do that all night. My best guess is the leak is coming somewhere in the vicinity of the swivel/neck tube and where it attaches to the piece that has the vents and the words "BLEEP" on it. By changing the angle and pressing it up, it definitely goes silent, but then as soon as I take it away, noise. I think the reason I"m sleeping through it is earplugs. Another reason why I don't think it is my mouth leaking is because I don't have dry mouth at all. What do you think? Is it an actual leak from the mask and not my mouth?

[Sleepy in GV]

You didn't delete the right amount of inner quoted bits.

When you wake up, listen for any leaks, if it's going to leak because the tape is coming loose, it'll do it then most likely.

I had air blowing in my left eye one morning, and found that the tape on the right side, up the bridge of my nose, had developed a tiny channel that was blowing a gentle stream across to the other side... I was poking around on the left side forever trying to find the leak.. didn't expect a 'crossover'.

It isn't coming from the tape, that hasn't failed (the bleep tape, not my mouth tape). There isn't any air up around my face, it is all blowing straight down from where the vents are. That's why I'm having such a hard time figuring out what is going on. I can't separate the vent air from where the leak is. If it is a leak. Has to be, right?

Quote button is working again !

[Pugsy]

Well ...if the ports aren't attached properly there is no doubt about any leak...it's massive and loud...or has been in my experience.
Harder to tell when it is an iffy situation with the part that can swivel and the port attaches to.

While awake...the leak line I would think would have been or should have been totally on 0.0 with no green little blips.
BUT you were saying you were hearing noise and that's why you removed and attached it a couple of times....and while awake you should be NOT hearing the vent noise because you should be able to position it so it simply can't bounce off anything.
At your pressures at the beginning of the night....it's silent venting as long as not bouncing off something.

So if you hear noise...and it's not vent bounce back...it's gotta be from something not connected properly.

Do you have a spare ResMed filter that is NOT hypoallergenic kind...just the mesh airy one???
Are you using any sort of diffuser?

The fact that you hear the noise bothers me more than the little blips on the leak graph...I need to do a bit of thinking and probably a bit of research on my own end and see if I can duplicate what you are getting.

Where do you live?

[Pugsy]

What you describe being you have to manually hold the mask up against your face with some pressure on it to stop the noise....I have had that happen and I always thought it was related to the placement of the little arms in between the dots but I haven't really tested it myself. I wake up to look at the offending mask and the little arms weren't between the dots...so that's what I blamed.

I think I need to ask Stuart what he thinks...so instead of your having to copy all this over in the Bleep thread I am just going to make a little post in the Bleep review thread pointing back to this discussion so he can come over here and read this.

[Jas_williams]

You didn't delete the right amount of inner quoted bits.

When you wake up, listen for any leaks, if it's going to leak because the tape is coming loose, it'll do it then most likely.

I had air blowing in my left eye one morning, and found that the tape on the right side, up the bridge of my nose, had developed a tiny channel that was blowing a gentle stream across to the other side... I was poking around on the left side forever trying to find the leak.. didn't expect a 'crossover'.

It isn't coming from the tape, that hasn't failed (the bleep tape, not my mouth tape). There isn't any air up around my face, it is all blowing straight down from where the vents are. That's why I'm having such a hard time figuring out what is going on. I can't separate the vent air from where the leak is. If it is a leak. Has to be, right?

Quote button is working again !

It sounds to me that the vent piece is not properly inserted into the silicone can you pull it off remove it then pop it back on there is a slot on the edge of the vents that the silicone piece slots into maybe post a photo of your mask here and we can see if we can see anything obvious

[palerider]

it is all blowing straight down from where the vents are. That's why I'm having such a hard time figuring out what is going on. I can't separate the vent air from where the leak is. If it is a leak. Has to be, right?

Well, the vents do blow a lot of air, that's why I've got the spare filter stuck to them. once I put the filter on... the vent quit blowing on stuff (including the hose).

If the air's going straight down along the hose line, that sounds like the vents.

[Sleepy in GV]

So if you hear noise...and it's not vent bounce back...it's gotta be from something not connected properly.

Do you have a spare ResMed filter that is NOT hypoallergenic kind...just the mesh airy one???
Are you using any sort of diffuser?

The fact that you hear the noise bothers me more than the little blips on the leak graph...I need to do a bit of thinking and probably a bit of research on my own end and see if I can duplicate what you are getting.

Where do you live?

I do have a spare filter and I do have it maybe 6 inches below the vents. It is way too forceful to have it up near the vents, make's too much noise. By putting it lower, it still diverts it from my arms and stuff.

I live in Idaho .

[Sleepy in GV]

What you describe being you have to manually hold the mask up against your face with some pressure on it to stop the noise....I have had that happen and I always thought it was related to the placement of the little arms in between the dots but I haven't really tested it myself. I wake up to look at the offending mask and the little arms weren't between the dots...so that's what I blamed.

It isn't the holding it to my face that makes it quiet, but changing the angle where the tube/neck attaches to the bleep port. It changes that angle and makes it go quiet. It isn't the arms between the dots, I've checked for that for over a week now since you first mentioned it . I can feel for it now and don't even have to see it. My arms have never been out of their home base.

[Sleepy in GV]

It sounds to me that the vent piece is not properly inserted into the silicone can you pull it off remove it then pop it back on there is a slot on the edge of the vents that the silicone piece slots into maybe post a photo of your mask here and we can see if we can see anything obvious

You just might be right. I will try to look at that tonight. I will go take a pic too. I do think it has something to do with that area. Or the neck area.

[Sleepy in GV]

it is all blowing straight down from where the vents are. That's why I'm having such a hard time figuring out what is going on. I can't separate the vent air from where the leak is. If it is a leak. Has to be, right?

Well, the vents do blow a lot of air, that's why I've got the spare filter stuck to them. once I put the filter on... the vent quit blowing on stuff (including the hose).

If the air's going straight down along the hose line, that sounds like the vents.

Yes, it may be the vents.... just too much air or something. I do have the filter, but there is too much air to go right up against the vents. It is too noisy. I am going to go look at it and see if Jan's theory is right.

[Pugsy]

Check your PM box if you haven't already.

[Pugsy]

It sounds to me that the vent piece is not properly inserted into the silicone can you pull it off remove it then pop it back on there is a slot on the edge of the vents that the silicone piece slots into maybe post a photo of your mask here and we can see if we can see anything obvious

You just might be right. I will try to look at that tonight. I will go take a pic too. I do think it has something to do with that area. Or the neck area.

I am also thinking this area might be the culprit...and Stuart also thinking a possibility. He just sent me a picture this afternoon where the guy didn't have the silicone part fitted correctly to the part where the vent holes are and the guy was having leaks...once it was seated properly the leaks stopped. All it takes is one little spot being not quite sealed properly.