Best recording oximeters for home sleep study, under $125

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Best recording oximeters for home sleep study, under $125

Post by falcon408 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:14 pm

Hi, Can anyone recommend me few oximeters that are priced under $125 and are most suitable for recoding overnight data to be used for at home sleep study? I'm trying to find devices that are made no more than 3 years ago if possible, in hopes that they would have good technical support and compatibility with current technology. I'm reading so many usability issues as well as with trying to connect these devices to computer to analyze the data.

In my search I came across CMS 60D which is being sold for ~$120 on pulseoximeter.org site. It seems to come with few different probes including one for infant. Is this good one to buy?

I haven't yet gotten an official in lab sleep study done. The doc appointments are hard to get, need too many and expensive. Instead I'm trying self-help approach with CPAP. I own Dreamstation Auto Cpap and Dreamwear Nasal mask. Been using them for a week now. So far they are doing a decent job as I feel rested in the morning after ~8 hour sleep. This was a marked improvement for me compared to before. My AHI is around 4-5. I might be able to lower it if I increase the pressure but I noticed the nasal mask becomes more uncomfortable the higher the pressure is. I am not fancy about measurements to be honest. What matters is how I feel when I wake up and the rest of the day. However, I just want to be sure things are better with the mask on than without. And also I want to check my wife and daughter.

I do plan to see a Doc soon to try dental guard solution for OSA which I think if works would be preferable to mask, no matter how comfortable mask is. Any thoughts on that?

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Post by palerider » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:26 pm

falcon408 wrote:In my search I came across CMS 60D which is being sold for ~$120 on pulseoximeter.org site. It seems to come with few different probes including one for infant. Is this good one to buy?
I've got a cms50i, wrist mounted, multiple session recordings.

they're under 100$ if you look around on ebay or aliexpress.com

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Post by wm_hess » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:27 pm

PR

I'm looking at purchasing one ($79 Ebay) and was wondering compatibility with Sleepyhead. I don't have a computer handy to research.

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Post by yaconsult » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:08 pm

Does anyone actually use these things for more than a short period when they first get them before tossing them in a drawer, never to be used again? Have they been useful to making adjustments to cpap theapy? Doesn't a sleepyhead report provide much, much more information for free? Or am I missing something?

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Post by wm_hess » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:19 pm

For myself, I like to wear it about once a month at night. It has always shown that my blood ox is good. Confirmation is reassuring. I also wear it during the day to keep an eye on things.

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Post by Pugsy » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:39 pm

I got one just for a spot check. Was having some morning headaches and just wanted to make sure things were okay in that regard. Didn't really think it was the oxygen...because I have a bad neck and when the neck hurts I often have a headache.

Since I knew that I wouldn't likely be wanting to do any checking very often I got the cheapest I could get (the CMS 50Dplus) because I figured I wouldn't need or want the extra features the more expensive units offered.

Now I can see where someone else might want to check things more frequently for any number of reasons including simply wanting to and you all know that I think "want to" is always a good enough reason to do anything.

I was correct about knowing what I would do...used it twice and put it away to never use it again...finally loaned it to someone who also wanted to just spot check and she ended up keeping it (she got a great discounted price).

Now if someone had known cardiac issues or lung issues or history of low levels or was even on O2...I can really see someone like that maybe wanting to do more than a spot check for their own peace of mind if nothing else.

So my advice to someone considering buying one of these overnight recording pulse oximeters is to look at what you want it for and how often will you want or need it. The more expensive units have some additional features that might come in handy and the wrist mounted base for the finger probe thingy would definitely be a plus.

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Post by palerider » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:31 pm

wm_hess wrote:PR

I'm looking at purchasing one ($79 Ebay) and was wondering compatibility with Sleepyhead. I don't have a computer handy to research.
one which? the 50i? it was mine that created the data to enable importing into sleepyhead... unless that feature got broken in the current beta.. it works.

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Post by palerider » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:34 pm

yaconsult wrote:Does anyone actually use these things for more than a short period when they first get them before tossing them in a drawer, never to be used again? Have they been useful to making adjustments to cpap theapy? Doesn't a sleepyhead report provide much, much more information for free? Or am I missing something?
in order: yes, yes, totally DIFFERENT information, yes.

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Re: Best recording oximeters for home sleep study, under $125

Post by wm_hess » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:10 pm

palerider wrote:
wm_hess wrote:PR

I'm looking at purchasing one ($79 Ebay) and was wondering compatibility with Sleepyhead. I don't have a computer handy to research.
one which? the 50i? it was mine that created the data to enable importing into sleepyhead... unless that feature got broken in the current beta.. it works.
Thank you PR. Yes, I'm looking at the CMS50i. I have the CMS50f (1st generation), and the display is getting harder and harder (fuzzy) to read. I have an eye exam yearly, and no significant vision loss so I'm assuming the display is going south.

Thanks to you and Mark for all the work that was done on Sleepyhead. I know it's not finished and lacks things but it's still a whale of a lot better than no information at all. Hopefully Mark will feel better in the future and pick up the development reins

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Post by palerider » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:39 pm

wm_hess wrote:Thank you PR. Yes, I'm looking at the CMS50i. I have the CMS50f (1st generation), and the display is getting harder and harder (fuzzy) to read. I have an eye exam yearly, and no significant vision loss so I'm assuming the display is going south.

Thanks to you and Mark for all the work that was done on Sleepyhead. I know it's not finished and lacks things but it's still a whale of a lot better than no information at all. Hopefully Mark will feel better in the future and pick up the development reins
at the very least, it *does* work with 098, I'm just not sure about 1.0b, I've heard mixed reports.

I think the OLED displays on those will get weak... so that's probably what's happening to yours. mine's pretty dim compared to the one a friend of mine has.

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Post by falcon408 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:52 pm

I looked at the wrist mounted model 50F but I thought it would not be comfortable to wear overnight because my hands and wrist are usually close to my face, to the nasal pillows mask. I was hoping someone has tried the 60D and could comment if its comfortable enough to be used regularly. If only these devices are made to be comfortable, easy to operate and interpret data by average person, the cost would be worth it.

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Post by SewTired » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:19 pm

yaconsult wrote:Does anyone actually use these things for more than a short period when they first get them before tossing them in a drawer, never to be used again? Have they been useful to making adjustments to cpap theapy? Doesn't a sleepyhead report provide much, much more information for free? Or am I missing something?
I think it depends on the person. I bought the recording unit (CMS 50F from compac) about 9 months after getting my machine because I was still so woefully tired despite cpap working for me. So, my suggestion is to first work out stuff using your graphs. If it STILL isn't working for you, then get the oximeter. Otherwise, it's just more junk around the house, IMHO. I can't tell you how many diabetics I know never even use their meters. You know what you are like.

Now that I have it, the sleep doctor wants me to use it 3 nights in a row every month and report to her any changes. So, I just put it on the calendar since I have to remember to charge it up in advance. I may end up with nighttime oxygen, but I'm still just above qualification for it.

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Re: Best recording oximeters for home sleep study, under $125

Post by rkl122 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:03 pm

palerider wrote:
wm_hess wrote:Thank you PR. Yes, I'm looking at the CMS50i...........
at the very least, it *does* work with 098, I'm just not sure about 1.0b, I've heard mixed reports.
I can direct download the CMS50i into the SH beta, but the data don't display properly synced to the sleep session. I played with the import parameters - no joy. And the beta won't read files downloaded from the CMS50i by the software that comes with it. Several of us have registered the issue with the bugtracker. Haven't tried earlier versions of SH.

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Post by Uncle_Bob » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:49 pm

yaconsult wrote:Does anyone actually use these things for more than a short period when they first get them before tossing them in a drawer, never to be used again? Have they been useful to making adjustments to cpap theapy? Doesn't a sleepyhead report provide much, much more information for free? Or am I missing something?
Yep that's how my first one died, neglect. I didn't use it for over a year and the rechargeable battery failed because I didn't charge it in that time. I could not find a replacement and even if I did the battery was soldered in. The (chinese) manufacturer was not much help other than to say if I purchased a new one they would send a replacement battery for my broken one. It was one of the CMS oximeters.

Since then I have purchased the CMS 50D+ which is a finger mounted oximeter that records data but uses two AAA batteries. It can be found for around $35 on Amazon. The only downside is that it does not record the start and stop times, data recording time is relative to when you push start. Also you can purchase a remote sensor for an additional $25 if you have trouble keeping it on your finger.

I've never found the need to import the data into sleepyhead but the supplied software gives me summary and detailed data to my satisfaction.
I suspect if you import the data into sleepyhead you might have to manually tell sleepy head the times you started/stopped recording so it can attempt to align detailed graphs.

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Post by klm49 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:22 am

rkl122 wrote:
palerider wrote:
wm_hess wrote:Thank you PR. Yes, I'm looking at the CMS50i...........
at the very least, it *does* work with 098, I'm just not sure about 1.0b, I've heard mixed reports.
I can direct download the CMS50i into the SH beta, but the data don't display properly synced to the sleep session. I played with the import parameters - no joy. And the beta won't read files downloaded from the CMS50i by the software that comes with it. Several of us have registered the issue with the bugtracker. Haven't tried earlier versions of SH.

-Ron
I use a CMS50F with Sh 1.0.0-beta 2 and it works fine. I do not import directly from the device but use the file created by the SPO2 Review program. My CMS50f unit had a bug when I got it from China in that the clock can be set but the time never updates. The data review shows the time, but the start time is always the same. I was able to overcome this when I import into SH by specifying my SPO2 start time as the same as my SH session. I just have to be sure to start my CMS50F at the same time as my APAP machine. I do wish I had bought the multiple session recorder so I didn't have to upload the data every day. I bought on EBAY from the Chinese supplier and they were willing to replace the defective unit but since I got around the problem I didn't want to wait the several weeks to replace it.

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