Poll Re: Apnea and Your Weight

[palerider]

That poster left because how she was treated affected her health.

oh, give it a rest.

there was NOTHING in julies reply that warranted the completely over the top reaction... "made her CRY?" ffs! packing up her toys and leaving? puhlease.

that's nothing but drama and attention seeking, and it shouldn't be fed.

[palerider]

but nobody is answering my question...would she have reacted that way if it was said the way it was said the 2nd time?

you're GUESSING, you have no factual basis for anything, you're just pushing your agenda, and causing trouble.

if you don't like things here, leave. go somewhere that is controlled and moderated, this ain't the only cpap forum on the net.

[Michelle-OH]

but nobody is answering my question...would she have reacted that way if it was said the way it was said the 2nd time?

you're GUESSING, you have no factual basis for anything

Yes, I'm guessing, that was why I said "i bet' she wouldn't have reacted that way. Learn to read.

[palerider]

but nobody is answering my question...would she have reacted that way if it was said the way it was said the 2nd time?

you're GUESSING, you have no factual basis for anything

Yes, I'm guessing, that was why I said "i bet' she wouldn't have reacted that way. Learn to read.

funny, the words "i bet" don't show up anywhere in what you said...

memory failing? too busy being a busybody to pay attention to what you've typed?

mebbe you're just delusional and we should ignore everything you say while you're foaming at the mouth/fingers?

[Michelle-OH]

but nobody is answering my question...would she have reacted that way if it was said the way it was said the 2nd time?

you're GUESSING, you have no factual basis for anything

Yes, I'm guessing, that was why I said "i bet' she wouldn't have reacted that way. Learn to read.

funny, the words "i bet" don't show up anywhere in what you said...

memory failing? too busy being a busybody to pay attention to what you've typed?

mebbe you're just delusional and we should ignore everything you say while you're foaming at the mouth/fingers?

Too true, my bad. I said 'I very much doubt'. Different words, same meaning. I didn't go back to review my exact wording, busy cooking not foaming.

[palerider]

Different words, same meaning. I didn't go back to review my exact wording, busy cooking not foaming.

so... we should... go with what you meant... not what you said... but you don't give Julie the same courtesy.

different words... same meaning.

[Michelle-OH]

Different words, same meaning. I didn't go back to review my exact wording, busy cooking not foaming.

so... we should... go with what you meant... not what you said... but you don't give Julie the same courtesy.

different words... same meaning.

If Julie was courteous in the first statement, we wouldn't be doing this and no one would have been crying. It's not for you to say that the poster shouldn't have cried, what matters is that she did. I may have messed up what word I used, but my tone and my meaning were the same.

I am certainly not the first person on the forum to post about how condescending some of you are, I'd just like to be the last. I'd like to see it end. I told some of my friends on cpap about how informative this forum CAN be, and how helpful SOME people are, but I'm embarrassed to have them come on to see how condescending and downright rude others are.

[palerider]

... cried, what matters is that she did.

or, so you ASS-u-me. I could say that I'm devastated by your incessant harping on this crap and emotionally distraught and crying... would you shut up then?

I am certainly not the first person on the forum to post about how condescending some of you are, I'd just like to be the last. I'd like to see it end. I told some of my friends on cpap about how informative this forum CAN be, and how helpful SOME people are, but I'm embarrassed to have them come on to see how condescending and downright rude others are.

welp, you just keep harping.... if you want it to end, you have to end it. an idiot posted this stupid poll, which hurt and annoyed people, and if things worked right, the damn thread would have died out by now... but, you're certainly doing your thing to keep it alive, eh?

[Michelle-OH]

... cried, what matters is that she did.

or, so you ASS-u-me. I could say that I'm devastated by your incessant harping on this crap and emotionally distraught and crying... would you shut up then?

I am certainly not the first person on the forum to post about how condescending some of you are, I'd just like to be the last. I'd like to see it end. I told some of my friends on cpap about how informative this forum CAN be, and how helpful SOME people are, but I'm embarrassed to have them come on to see how condescending and downright rude others are.

welp, you just keep harping.... if you want it to end, you have to end it. an idiot posted this stupid poll, which hurt and annoyed people, and if things worked right, the damn thread would have died out by now... but, you're certainly doing your thing to keep it alive, eh?

What I want to end is you, I wish I had that power. Some people seem to have thought the poll was fine, as I read thru it I see the same old folks trashing people...

[Lucyhere]

[quote="palerider"... but, you're certainly doing your thing to keep it alive, eh?[/quote]


Funny! You have no part in keeping this thread alive... right?

[palerider]

What I want to end is you,..

likewise, slinky.

[leptic]

Have been married for over ten years and I'm told by my wife that I started snoring fairly suddenly in 2013 when a Christmas-holiday back/rib injury combined with the usual holiday binging contributed to a substantial weight gain. The doc also prescribed codeine to help sleep given the pain, which I think creates a lot of issues with sleep and breathing. My understanding is that *snoring* (irrespective of weight) is the real red flag.

My big thing, since my injury/weight gain, was 'clicking'. I recorded this using SnoreLab (an iPhone app) and you can clearly hear the airway collapse and then re-open. I drove my wife crazier than the snoring...

While I don't think anyone expects this to be like a rigorous academic poll designed by epidemiologists and biostatisticians, I think it stimulates some worthwhile discussion and as someone new here I appreciate it.

BTW I was around 30lbs overweight when diagnosed - I've lost around 6 lbs and still working on it, although it already feels better.

Edit: here's a clip of the clicking. I have no idea if this is due to weight, or why weight would cause it, but I'm told it started when my weight shot up. Of course it could also be something like the codeine triggering apnea (due to respiratory depression), which in turn accelerated the weight gain (cortisol/insulin).

Edit^2: I'm also assuming that the audio snippet does not reflect a period of significant apnea. The SnoreLab software recorders audio periods flagged due to loud volume, not pauses in breathing. I have recordings somewhere that include the whole night - interesting to see what that sounds like.

I do realize that nobody really wants to hear me snoring, but I have been thinking for a while that there might be useful information in the audio during sleep.

[Grace~~~]

Edit: here's a clip of the clicking. I have no idea if this is due to weight, or why weight would cause it, but I'm told it started when my weight shot up. Of course it could also be something like the codeine triggering apnea (due to respiratory depression), which in turn accelerated the weight gain (cortisol/insulin).

Edit^2: I'm also assuming that the audio snippet does not reflect a period of significant apnea. The SnoreLab software recorders audio periods flagged due to loud volume, not pauses in breathing. I have recordings somewhere that include the whole night - interesting to see what that sounds like.

I do realize that nobody really wants to hear me snoring, but I have been thinking for a while that there might be useful information in the audio during sleep.

I admit ~~~

I only listened to 4 seconds, but I have to say that CRACKED ME UP!

I would like to meet you wife one day, Leptic.

You are too funny.



Please don't take that wrong.
I know written words sometimes fail us~~~

I mean it in total 'love'



I have had an absurdly horrible few days and that was JUST the kind of thing I was hoping the internet would provide. Anesthesia can only delete so much.

xoxoxo

[leptic]

I admit ~~~

I only listened to 4 seconds, but I have to say that CRACKED ME UP!

I would like to meet you wife one day, Leptic.

You are too funny.

Please don't take that wrong.
I know written words sometimes fail us~~~

I mean it in total 'love'

I have had an absurdly horrible few days and that was JUST the kind of thing I was hoping the internet would provide. Anesthesia can only delete so much.

xoxoxo

I am very glad that you appreciated the absurdity of this whole situation, and that it brought you some mirth because laughter really is the best medicine! I don't know why you were anesthetized, but wish you a speedy and comfortable recovery.

I can tell you that, when I was posting this, I was thinking to myself "leptic, I cannot believe you are posting a clip of you snoring on the internet..."

[tlohse]

I am overweight for my age sex and size. But ive lost some weight the sleep apnea was not really the only reason why I was so heavy. I also have Hypothyroidism.